Hi to all,
I'd like to take a moment to request that all of our membership demonstrate a little extra personal restraint for any further discussion that takes place on this thread.
We hope you'll try to support the Admin efforts to keep this site a civil friendly

place where we're all at liberty to express our differences of opinion, so long as we do so in a respectful manner that shows consideration for one another.
If an argumentative vein continues, rather than a civil discussion, this thread will be closed. Any further debate would be better suited within the Kickin' Back forum.
Thanks for understanding.