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You know the allergy test you had done 4 years ago, hon? What did it flag up apart from dairy?



Where is your pain mainly centered, Sunny? Or is it anywhere and everywhere?

Sorry for all the questions, I just desperately want to try and help you somehow...

tink,

dont be sorry for the questions, i just wish it were an expert doc asking them know what i mean?

casein was at the limit on the rating scale. i eliminated it for 5-6 months -even butter- with no improvement. that was pre NSD.
coconut-high
tea-mild
brewers yeast-mild
pork-mild

i dont eat the other stuff anyway. except pork on occassion. even before the test i never really ate the other stuff. i did used to eat more pork but still not too much.

coconut is from palm and theres palm something or other in loads of things including beauty products. i tried my best at the time to eliminate what i could seeing we do absorb a high percent of what we put on our skin.

i have been to 3 allergy docs, 5 rhuems. 3 gp, 3 massage therapists, accupucture, vit c iv, homeopath, electrodermal (eds) screening, physical therapy (short term), 2 chiropractors, and emergency room twice with admittance on 2nd and observed for 3 days. those are in no particular order.

i did learn at one holistic md that i could try desensitizing for food but that would require me to eat the offending food first. unsure how that would go and how long and cost and all.

i dont want u to worry but i am glad u r interested and asking questions. sometimes, for me, it helps stir new ideas.
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wheres the pain?

well my hips, back, neck and r shoulder are constant stiff and nearly immobile. when i eat bad stuff it usually makes it all worse but in addition my hips and shoulder get more-so and painful. then my knees swell up.

1 bite of coconut cream pie does this very quickly where as, lets say, starchy cooked veggie is no where near as bad of reaction.


so ima thinkin
thanks tink <3

Hi Sunny

Been on web for a bit and came across something which could be interesting. It caught my attention because it was not saying the same old thing about ellimination diets etc that every other site talks about.

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ENZYMES
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This bit grabbed my attention because you have trouble digesting milk and dairy in particular.

FLORA
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It goes on to discuss Auto Immune Diseases and then other allergens i.e. "pesticides, hormones, and chemical preservatives, additives, and contaminants which end up in our food as the results of preparation, processing and packaging."

The reason I am quoting all this stuff is because maybe sorting out potential enzyme and flora deficiencies could be a different way of tackling your chronic food allergies.

As clearly the conventional: if you are allergic/sensitive to a food, cut it out - approach - is not working for you. I say this in light of the fact that you are allergic/sensitive to so many (and an increasing) amount of foods that this is not an adequate solution/management of your problem.

I doubt I am coming up with anything new here, but like you said, keeping the ideas and conversation going (when you feel open/up to it) is a good way of sparking other thoughts off.

I will keep on the case for you - I promise.

Your friend, Tink

Oops forgot to include the link! Doh!

http://www.health-report.co.uk/allergies.html

tink!

i sat here and cried half way thru readding your post. thank u so much for taking the time out of your busy life to bring me such information. it means a lot <hug>

i will look more into these things and some other stuff that a few other lovely folks provided and see what i can come up with. i am very interested in the undigested food and enzymes though! im gonna try to find if theres any testing on these things that can be done and ask for them.

i have considered colon cleansing but havent done it. maybe its time i give it a try? someone here i think said u can get them to use like a probiotic flush too?

ahhhh. im goin on a hunt. be back later.


tink, Thank You

No probs, Sunny - I hope as a team we can come up with some strategies and ideas to stop you from hitting a brick wall. You desperately need some inspiration and more than anything some fresh hope

Been looking more on the enzyems and found a (to me) fascinating article... skim read the first few paragraphs and bear with it because it covers EVERYTHING about the role and importance of enzymes and why fasting is so effective - it all fitted into place for me.

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This is the bit about fasting - which I never fully understood the mechanics of before:

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There is lots more compelling evidence in the interview.

Here is the link:

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/enzymes.html

Incidentally, everything I am reading is saying that tree nuts are enzyeme inhibitors - which struck a chord because they give you trouble don't they?

Oh! forgot the colon cleansing you mentioned...

Reading all about this stuff is taking me back to just before my AS started. I saw an alternative therapist for help with my chronic eczema... actually I can't remember if I had started any AS symptoms by then... anyway - she advised me to give up bread, pasta and various other things, she gave me a colon cleansing kit (which I did not do - I was only young and it seemed totally alien and ridiculous to me then) she also told me to do skin brushing and gave me some sort of capsules - can't remember what they were now. All of this seemed whacky at the time, but it's all starting to make more sense to me now. I was a smoker and I was veggie at the time I went to see this therapist and she told me I was malnutritiened. Again, I thought she was crazy. But that was just to be the beginning of my health problems.

I think I have literally changed my whole attitude towards food and my body this evening - so thank you. I am excited by this because it backs up the whole theory of the NSD too.

I am staying on the case - keep us posted, Sunny

And also,



In answer to your question, from the same site as above:

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So I would think you could certainly have a urine test done to find out if you are enzyme deficient!

tinky tinky tinky im pickled tink lol.

i know sjlc and maybe others have mentioned glutamine but now i am seeing these enzymes in a whole new way. im greatful u shared this. sometimes we zone out and sometimes zone in and i feel zoned in right now.

i am going to ask my doc for guidance on this subject but if its not a strong area for her ill try on my own anyway. found a great site for getting started and what/how/when to take. www.enzymestuff.com/basicsdosing.htm theres lots of other beginner info too, have a look around. i have not read it all but enough to think its a good starting point. ill go back to it later after processing some of this in my brain. i need to see if theres an enzyme doc/counselor or something that might get better results. dunno.
i won't be back til much later tonight but girl... youve lit a fire under me buttttt and im cautiously excited about it

oh u said dry brushing. theres a certaing way to do it but i wanna try... what could it hurt? and it seems easy enough.


no i cant have treenuts.

thanky

Yeah, me too, hon

I read some (but not all - just got out of bed! ) and it looks to have lots of info for beginners as you say. I really hope you can get someone on board to help you, so that you are getting some real-life guidance. Fingers crossed.

For me, I am going to watch my raw/cooked food ratio. I am looking at fasting in a whole new way too.

The skin brushing is easy, yes, there is a certain point you start/finish as I think and you always guide your strokes towards your heart.

http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/healingtechniques/dry_brushing_technique.htm

Let me know how you get on with the doctor, Sunny, sweetie

Ok, scratch that, I am in this with you...
I am going to talk to my nutritianist and see what she says too.
This way, we can compare notes and share our findings with each other - what do you say?

I have been eating all sorts of c**p lately and it is taking its towel on my digestion, my AS and my moods.
I am getting stiff, achy and uncomfortable. Nothing serious - but enough to know that I am heading for trouble if I carry on like this for much longer. This is just the kick up the bum I needed to make me see sense.

Not much food in right now, but for breakfast I started with a herbal tea (no sweetners), a greek yoghurt with a tsp of honey and a pear. I am going to keep my research going and try to plan out what I could eat for maximum enzyeme benefits.