Kickas.org Forums Treatments, Drugs and Alternatives NSD and diet-related; Started antibiotics

Hey, airman:

I share your frustrations; it is unfortunate that nothing has helped to date. Recently, I had some AS-related hip bursitis begin and I did not want to take the antibiotics, so I fasted for nine days and it went away. Problem is that, when I resumed eating, the bursitis began to come back despite the fact of a very strict diet (after the fast; I was sloppy before, which got me into that flare in the first place).

If anything will work, fasting will, and it has other benefits like clearing out "zellenverschlackung," or amyloid and even arterial plaque. It takes less than 10 days to take down any flare, and it is a good option between seasons (apple and cherry) where the monodiets can be tried. Fasting is one of the best ways to heal the tract in general, but it can be a bit hard on the mucosa specifically, just like antibiotics. It can go a long way in reducing C. albicans, also.

Have you done the candidiasis spittle test after the antibiotics? This is one possibility that I am always concerned with--enough to just do anti-candida therapies every time I take antibiotics.

Keep trying, you will get to the answers you need. One fellow had to get chelated: Although fasting helped, his AS returned with a vengeance after the fast and he finally found out that he had a subclinical mercury poisoning. I think he is still doing well, but don't know what therapies he is following.

Good Luck to You, and we will be right here to help if we can,
John

I have been considering the antibiotic route also. I've been reading your protocol, Dragonslayer and also some testimonies on The Road Back site. I noticed one woman who had AS tried minocyn without relief, but then was put on Flagyl and hasn't looked back. Why do you use so many different antibiotics, Dragonslayer? Is it because they attack different areas?
Not questioning you; just trying to understand.
Linda

John,

I just started Tetracycline after two break since Cipro. What would you suggest to do in my situation?

1. Drop tetracycline and fast for several days (I can't do much, may be 3 days, as I work very intensive two jobs)
2. Stay on tetracycline and do an apple fast (that one is easier, although I don't know if it's good idea to combine antibiotics and mono diet, so may be stop them temporarily)
3. Go extra strict NSD and continue tetracycline and wait for improvement.
4. Do #3 and get Enbrel shots (I have emergency four weeks supply) to get inflammation down.

Thanks!

Hey, airman:

I would do the tetracycline at 1500mg/day in three dosages of 500mg approximately 2 hours before each of 3 main meals. Although I really like the concept of Enbrel, I know that antibiotics are the real way to treat AS, along with diet.

When I was working, I always began fasting on Thursdays and felt much better by the next Monday, but the three days might only just be enough to take down the flare.

I am almost always negative for the spittle test, but have seen others develop distinctive spider-webs and tendrils; it might be unrelated to C. albicans, or I could be really lucky or my fasting experiences cleared up any propensity for candidiasis...I just don't know the answer.

Certainly, if you can avoid suffering by using the Enbrel, it is a great drug to have available and I would not discourage you from using it, but again, not noticing the flare as opposed to actually eliminating the inflammation would not be my own choice.

The apples are best in-season, and we are sort of in-between but if you can find good apples this regimen will usually take down the worst flare--even better than fasting.

I hope that you can make the best and most effective long-term choice,

John

Hi, Linda:

I switch families of antibiotics sometimes--to keep the little beggars guessing--and also use different agents for different things, like Cipro outright kills the germ, but tetracycline just keeps it from multiplying so much. And Flagyl can help keep down C. difficile, so it is an essential agent when playing with these antibiotics.

Good luck with the antibiotics, if that is the way you are going,
John

hi Karen-

Where on that website is the list of doctors that will perscribe? I'm wanting to try antibiotics and cannot find a dr that will agree with me. thanks! -Kim

I know I'm not Karen, but if you go into the bulletin board on the Road Back site Karen provided, there is a "sticky" note titled "Information on Requesting a listing of AP doctors". Good luck.

yeah, I would have NEVER found that. thanks!

Update: fourth week on tetracycline. Hate to say it, but no joy so far. Inflammation is low-mid level and range of motion is diminishing week by week.

I wonder if anyone else here tried antibiotics except John. Share your experience please.