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I've been wondering about the effects of ordinary tap water. I see it on the don't list for NSD. Can someone illuminate this a little more? I know tap water has little guys in it, but what effect on AS is there? I'm still drinking from the tap so need to find out about this.
Thanks,
Allan

It's on the list -- go to the foods list link, foods to avoid (left column), scroll way down . . . no tap water. I have a 2.5 gallon Brita tank in the fridge, and I filter my water through that.

Patty



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Hi Tink,

I also filter my water (Brita as well)... but just learned that it is acidic, therefore robbing my body to balance the ph. My water at work is alkaline.

Tim

"I had no shoes and complained, until I met a man who had no feet" - Indian Proverb

Hi, Allan:

Tap water has chlorine compounds along with both live and much dead bacteria it was put there to kill, algae, yeasts, protezoa, and there are many solids and weird stuff that, for the most part, does not belong in our bodies like bits of plastic, asbestos, MTBE, the wrong fluorides, etc. This is why it should be avoided in favor of distilled water for drinking; it is acceptable to bathe in...

Best Regards,
John

John,
I understood that distilled water should be avoided because CO2 dissolves in it and turns it acidic. I understand that there was a craze for it in the US in the early 90s and it was heavily criticised at the time by various bodies. I am not sufficient scientist to understand the ins and outs of the arguments, but no doubt our resident chemists will make it all as clear as a highland spring.
Charlie

Hi, Charlie:

Distilled water has been variously vilified as 'lacking minerals, so that it pulls them from our bodies,' and now that it turns acidic!

The pH of our stomachs should be below 2. The pH of carbonic acid--even the most concentrated when made on purpose for soda pop--is about 5.7 and coffee is about the same. Do you mean that you would avoid all soda pop, coffee, and even rainwater too? What is the justification?

Understand that if the volume of our stomach fluid were doubled by adding in a neutral fluid (distilled water with pH=7), the pH would only elevate (percentage of Hydrion is actually decreasing in this case) from 2.0 to 2.5 (pH is logarithmic) for a little while. Drinking acids or bases does almost nothing to modulate our body pH--our blood and other sera are heavily regulated to hover about 7.2, mostly for reasons of optimal environment for hemoglobin to exchange oxygen with cells.

Even some of the most intelligent people go flat bonkers over this stuff--indicative of our general lack of understanding about diet in general.

Best Regards,
John

John,

Thanks for the follow up comments. This was explained to me last week with the water I was drinking.... the alternative pract. did the testing on my water (she was curious). She explained to me the acid/alkaline of the water and her view of the effect on the body.

She would like me to add drops to my acidic water.... but I am always skeptical whenever someone wants you to do something immediately that costs money, so I have resisted.

If you say it is flat bonkers, that is good enough for me to resist further.

Tim

"I had no shoes and complained, until I met a man who had no feet" - Indian Proverb

On a lighter note......

"I'm still drinking from the tap" made me think about one of my cats

(OK, it's well off-topic, I'm outta here..........)

Take care,

Jan

Love to faults is always blind,
Always is to joy inclined,
Lawless, winged, and unconfined,
And breaks all chains from every mind

John,
I really don't have an axe to grind on this one and as I said before, I am in no position to judge the validity of the arguments. There is all sorts of rubbish written about every subject under the sun, so everything we read needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Having said that, what do you make of the following article?
Charlie

During nearly 19 years of clinical practice I have had the opportunity to observe the health effects of drinking different types of water. Most of you would agree that drinking unfiltered tap water could be hazardous to your health because of things like parasites, chlorine, fluoride and dioxins.

Many health fanatics, however, are often surprised to hear me say that drinking distilled water on a regular, daily basis is potentially dangerous.

Paavo Airola wrote about the dangers of distilled water in the 1970's when it first became a fad with the health food crowd.

Distillation is the process in which water is boiled, evaporated and the vapour condensed. Distilled water is free of dissolved minerals and, because of this, has the special property of being able to actively absorb toxic substances from the body and eliminate them. Studies validate the benefits of drinking distilled water when one is seeking to cleanse or detoxify the system for short periods of time (a few weeks at a time). Fasting using distilled water can be dangerous because of the rapid loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride) and trace minerals like magnesium, deficiencies of which can cause heart beat irregularities and high blood pressure. Cooking foods in distilled water pulls the minerals out of them and lowers their nutrient value.

Distilled water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more distilled water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, "Distilled water, being essentially mineral-free, is very aggressive, in that it tends to dissolve substances with which it is in contact. Notably, carbon dioxide from the air is rapidly absorbed, making the water acidic and even more aggressive. Many metals are dissolved by distilled water."

The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages and other soft drinks) are made from distilled water. Studies have consistently shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks (with or without sugar) spill huge amounts of calcium, magnesium and other trace minerals into the urine. The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.

A growing number of health care practitioners and scientists from around the world have been advocating the theory that aging and disease is the direct result of the accumulation of acid waste products in the body.

There is a great deal of scientific documentation that supports such a theory. A poor diet may be partially to blame for the waste accumulation. Meats, sugar, white flour products, fried foods, soft drinks, processed foods, alcohol, dairy products and other junk foods cause the body to become more acidic. Stress, whether mental or physical can lead to acid deposits in the body.

There is a correlation between the consumption of soft water (distilled water is extremely soft) and the incidence of cardiovascular disease. Cells, tissues and organs do not like to be dipped in acid and will do anything to buffer this acidity including the removal of minerals from the skeleton and the manufacture of bicarbonate in the blood.

The longer one drinks distilled water, the more likely the development of mineral deficiencies and an acid state. I have done well over 3000 mineral evaluations using a combination of blood, urine and hair tests in my practice. Almost without exception, people who consume distilled water exclusively, eventually develop multiple mineral deficiencies.

Those who supplement their distilled water intake with trace minerals are not as deficient but still not as adequately nourished in minerals as their non-distilled water drinking counterparts even after several years of mineral supplementation.

The ideal water for the human body should be slightly alkaline and this requires the presence of minerals like calcium and magnesium.

Distilled water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Once this is accomplished, the continued drinking of distilled water is a bad idea.

Water filtered through reverse osmosis tends to be neutral and is acceptable for regular use provided minerals are supplemented.

Water filtered through a solid charcoal filter is slightly alkaline. Ozonation of this charcoal filtered water is ideal for daily drinking. Longevity is associated with the regular consumption of hard water (high in minerals). Disease and early death is more likely to be seen with the long term drinking of distilled water. Avoid it except in special circumstances.

Zoltan P. Rona MD MSc

John,

I agree with portugal charlie here, there are many sources that label distilled water as beeing dangerous, and the logic of those sources appeals to me.

Drinking alkaline or acidic water definitely affects your body PH and the comparison with the low PH of the stomach is unfortunately not applicable. The acid from the stomach has NO effect on the overall body PH as the body turns more alkaline when making this acid. a comparable amount of alkaline is absorbed when this acid is neutralised. The overall acid-base balance in this system is therefore 0.

Also distilled water does not only floods toxins, but also minerals/nutritiens from your body (why would it not?)

recommending distilled water for drinking is therefore in my opinion a dangerous recommendation.

Arjan