Kickas.org Forums Treatments, Drugs and Alternatives NSD and diet-related; Normal to Lose So Much Weight On The Diet?

I'm 5'11" as well and went from 220 to 209 in only 12 days(NSD). In my case I need to lose 20 more pounds. At this rate should reach my goal in the next 2 months or so, and there you have it, another extra expense(clothes).

Thanks for all of your replies, and the recipes Kiwi. Will give them a go.

I have always had problems being on the lean side. In my 20s, before AS reared it's ugly head, I would go to the gym and lift large weights. The rest of the time, I eat protein like it was going out of fashion. All this effort converted my 'Mr Puniverse' body into something a bit more reasonable.

AS means that this is all history now, although some progress on the LSD means that one day I may return. I still exercise by taking really brisk walks for 30 mins most days.

Perhaps I'm not eating enough. I have forgotten all the convenience foods that were available pre-LSD, and the diet takes a lot more time out of a busy day.

The only thing that worries me about LSD/NSD and the foods that many eat on it, is the fat content. Is it likely to punish the cardio vasc. system?

.... about that extra expense (clothes)... do not make the same mistake as me: I lost TONS of weight on NSD and got rid of most of my pants... then after about a year my weight started to stabablize (as it seems to for most people) and I had to buy a third set of pants. Ooops. Now, I actuallly weigh about 5 lbs more than I did pre-diet... and spend time thinking about what NOT to eat

when i started on the diet i've had 110 kg.

now i weight 77-79 kg. this is my weight since last year. you will loose weight for a while, but you will settle when your body will adjust with the changes and maybe you will start to gain while your gut will heal.

Thanks for the answers. I'm still a little confused though. Some say weight loss is unavoidable, because the body has to "adjust" to burning fat instead of carbs. I've also read some say that it's a simple calorie equation - eat more than you burn. If that is the case it shouldn't be hard at all to maintain weight. Just an example - a small bag (100g) of walnuts, some coconut baked goods, 4 eggs, some meat, and you already have about 1900 calories.

I know I should just jump in and try, but I really am underweight and can't afford to loose much weight - 175 tall, 54 kg.

I've lost a TON of weight. I'm 5'11" and now weigh 110. I'm battling hard to eat as much as possible, but the scale doesn't budget. But my version of the diet is extremely strict. No nuts, fruit, dairy, nightshades, or even sweet potatoes and squash. Definitely no baked good...even the coconut flour would stick in my stomach and refuse to empty (flare triggered right after).

I'm focusing now on eating as much food as I can that doesn't cause flaring. I'm consuming at least 2 avocados a day and HUGE slabs of meat (3 different types of meat at each meal). I eat four egg yolks. I make my own coconut milk straight from the coconut (no guar gum). I may be skinny, but I'm off all meds but LDN. It's worth it!!!

I am 5'9". I was 155 pounds pre-diet.

I plummeted to ghastly 127 pounds after a few months. Much of that loss is attributed to the diet, but I suspect that some of the weight loss was also caused by muscle atrophy since I couldn't really do much of anything.

Since then, my weight has been coming back gradually. Two plus years into the diet, I'm back at 142 pounds. Once I was able to exercise again, I was successful in putting some pounds back on. It's been slow and steady progress.

One of the things that helped me early on was switching to a high-fat diet. It was hard, but I definitely found spoons of coconut oil and nibbling on walnuts and macademia nuts (some people react to mac nuts, so watch out) helped to provide some extra sustenance.

I too am having great difficulty with the weight loss. At 6.0 ft I have stablized at 138 lbs from a lifelong 165 lbs, but I look way too thin and am feeling quite weak. It seems no matter how much coconut product I consume I cant gain a pound back.
I see here that several of you mention whole milk yogurt as a solution. I understood this to be off limits as the lactose, despite not containing starch, fed the klebsiella just the same. Could anyone elaborate? So glad this site exists.

Lactose is bad unless your body digests it efficiently (consumes it before the klebsiella has much chance at it). Many people do have this problem with lactose digestion, including me.

Store-bought yogurt does tend to have a significant amount of lactose, so I make my own yogurt with extra-high milkfat and extra-low lactose content. I was always impressed as a kid when a friend's mother did home-made yogurt (she learned how to cook in India), but it turns out to be quite easy if you've got the right gear:

* bottle of lactase drops for reducing lactose in cream
* bottle of probiotic yogurt starter
* digital thermometer with alarm for pre-cooking the milk & cream to the right temperature
* electric yogurt machine to keep the temperature in the target range for fermenting

See an older post for links to starter and yogurt machine
https://www.kickas.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=396037#Post396037

The bottle of lactase drops is optional; some people say that fermenting the yogurt for extra time will use up the lactose just as well, but I figure overkill is better than underkill in this case.

Also you might think treating cream with lactase is rather ridiculous because labels in the US cream say "0g sugar", but that's because they use a single-tablespoon serving size and are allowed to round down. There could be 1g lactose per 2 tablespoons cream (or 8g per cup) and it would still appear as "0g" because it is less than 1g per tablespoon. I have heard from European members that the lactose in cream is around 4% by weight. Not huge, but not necessarily negligable either.

My yogurt-making procedure:
* buy 1 gal lactose-free milk, 1 pint organic cream, treat the cream with lactase drops
* heat milk and cream to 180F (remember to set alarm on digital thermometer before I get bored and wander off to do something else)
* cool to 100F or lower (sometimes much lower, let it cool all day and finish up at night)
* mix in 1/8 teaspoon yogurt starter powder
* pour into 2 quart-size jars and 1 pint-size jar
* leave in electric yogurt maker for about a day

Caveat: can't say I look any less bony eating the high-fat yogurt, but it does give me enough energy. My beloved other half has more fatigue issues than I do.

Woodbine. I am exactly like you. 6'-4" and was 175lbs. before starting the no starch diet. I have always struggled to keep weight on, and this diet took that into overdrive. I went down to 155lbs. before I found a way to get more calories. Like you, I cannot afford the time to prepare 3+ meals as I work long hours and have a family consuming my nights. I get up extremely early to work out.

So my suggestion is to add multiple whey protein shakes during the day with Lactose free milk. I consume at least half a gallon of lactose free milk and about 200 grams of whey protein, which adds over 2,000 calories to my daily diet.

However, as always, the devil is in the details. You must be very careful to select a whey protein that is free from starch (example, Polydextrose) as well as free from artificial sweeteners (Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, etc.) that are just plain bad for everyone. In the US, there are a couple that fit the bill. Jay Robb is the one I use but it is expensive. I am going to try out Jarrows Formula soon as it is cheaper and looks to meet the criteria.

Other than that, I am very liberal with Organic butter and Olive Oil with meals and salads and also take a shot of Olive Oil nightly before bed.

With all this said, I still am not yet back to my original weight. I am currently up to 171. My goal is to get to 190, but not sure I will ever get there. Hey, a guy can dream right?

I hope this helps you or someone else. BTW, this is my first post. Woohoo! I looove this website! Power to us AS Suffers.