Kickas.org Forums Treatments, Drugs and Alternatives NSD and diet-related; Warning, starch in the oddest places!!!

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in awhile. In general I've been doing better on the LSD for six months now. Do to the limited nature of the diet and my feeling better I've recently added dairy and the occasional sugary treat back into my diet. I have discovered a few things I think may be helpful to some of you.
#1- Paper is very starchy; therefore using coffee filters may leach starch into the coffee. Anyone had experience and or/thoughts about this? Although I though, perhaps a French press would be better I realized that coffee is a bean and beans are starchy, could the coffee silt getting into the French-pressed coffee be just as dangerous? Perhaps a metal pour threw filter would be best? Also could eating and drinking from paper plates and cups be an issue?
#2- Has anyone noticed that pre-shredded cheese has modified food starch added? Well, guess what almost all restaurants (here in the States anyway) use pre- shredded cheese in there omelets and other cheese dishes. I found that ordering an omelet with Swiss cheese is safe because they usually don't have pre-shredded Swiss; it's in a slice so it's safe!
#3- In Carol Sinclair's book and in general people speak of ice cream as a good quick and safe snack. Well, here in the States, I have found NO safe ice cream out; it all has modified food starch, even in the finer ice cream parlors. By the way when some of you said Dairy Queen milk shakes are safe because they have no starch thickeners added did anyone check if the ice cream it self is safe? Anyway, I have found three flavors of safe ice cream by Hagen Daz, they are vanilla, strawberry, and mint chip. The other flavors by them mostly have starch too, can you believe it?

Hi Elizabeth,

I work for a process cheese manufacturer... I do know we put some starch in a few of the formulas, but not in all. However, I can only eat the cheese sparingly if I wanted (but I do not want to... I prefer cheese curds or goat cheese).

For ice cream, I could also eat Breyers very limited... ingredient list was maybe 4-5 items.

But dairy in general can present problems to me, so I generally avoid other than yogurt with probiotics.

Take care,

Tim

Hi Tim, what cheese manufacturer is it that you work for? Because all the pre-grated cheese at the Acme near me have modified food starch! I don't use pre-grated cheeses but I looked at the ingredients because I wanted to know what's in the cheese they serve at restaurants, in omelets and such. Also, all the flavors of Bryers ice-cream have it too! I know some can get away with dairy and others not and it depends on the kind of dairy. I find I'm fine with yogurt and hard cheeses cow, sheep or goat but soft cheese always cause my back to ache, even goat brie without the rind (cheese rinds are often starchy). So, can some people also get away with small amounts of modified food starch also, like in the Bryers ice-cream?

I work for Schreiber Foods (Private label cheese). If you buy cheese at WalMart it may be ours... following are also our customers... McDonald's, Subway, Wendy's, BK, Applebees.... I have to cost out the formulas and know a few have starch from time to time, but most do not.

Process cheese is natural cheese that is blended with salt, emulsifiers, coloring and other other fat sources, cooked and then casted. At times I know they will add starch.. but not always.

At one point I could eat Breyers, then it began causing issues. So now can only eat very infrequently and have not for some time (prefer yogurt).

Tim

Hey, I'm really interested in an answer to the coffee filter question. Does anyone out there know if the filter makes our coffee starchy? You can't exactly test with iodine. Carol Sinclair drinks coffee. ~Shelli

Yes, I know! I'm starting to discover the same.

#1 - "Broiled Fish with Herbs" at Wolfgang Puck Cafe, without the sauce, cause a flare for me on Saturday. I think they pre-make the fish frozen with the herb mixture which must have some sort of starch to keep it together.

#2 - crumbled bleu cheese - stay away from it!!

#3 - yes, I also resort to having omelets with swiss cheese because that's usually not pre-shredded.

I'm afraid to eat out, that's for sure!

I do get away with having McDonald's vanilla ice cream if I'm in a pinch. I usually stick with the Haagen Dazs vanilla, preferrably. it only gives me 'dairy' pain, which is very mild compared to my 'starch' pain. Although, the aforementioned bleu cheese definitely gave me the 'starch' pain, which is much, much worse. Erg

I love coffee, and usually drink expresso at the bar or at the restaurants, made using a metal filter. At home, I do use paper filter, but rarely. But I never felt a difference.
I can drink 2 to 3 cups a day of very strong coffee without problem.
Here at Portugal we have many brands of ice-cream free of starch. I enjoy very much the ones of "Ola" and some of "Nestle". Have you consider making your own ice creams at home?

Good luck on the diet

Zélia

I don't know why I didn't think of that! This past weekend I cooked some chickens in a NS broth to make homemade chicken noodle soup for my family. I saved out some broth for a casserole for later in the week and then proceeded to make the soup. But I forgot to take out some broth for me to have for my soup and dropped the noodles into the broth. I took out a small spoonful of broth and tested it and sure enough, just dropping the noodles into the broth was enough to turn it black. Then I checked the broth I had taken out previously and it was fine.

Thanks for the idea.

~Shelli