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This unfortunately is true, who will sponsor research that says dont eat starch and you can throw away your drugs. I would imagine only an anti drugs starch free pasta company. George

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I'll leave you to research opinions of glucosamine on the net yourself, but it is a simple "sugar" and is believed to be directly vailable to cells and often used in its sulphate form with chondroitin and MSM.
As for Acidophilus, the idea of benign or harmless bacteria in the gut is just taking up all the spaces that bad bugs could invade if they were not already occupied. There are also positive advantages with some bacteria and all info is out there if you look.
The basics of benign bacteria is that ALL acid-tolerant and salt (chloride)-tolerant bacteria are benign.
There is one exception - botulism.
We have an acidic, chloride-filled gut which kills most things except acidopholus, lactobaccilli etc. but some things do still get past. Salt is a preservative in food simply makes it an unhealthy environment for growth of bugs which are unhealthy for us. This is universal unless we encourage the conditions that suit botulism - an anerobic bug of some potency, very easy to avoid as oxygen (air exposure) kills it.
But don't listen to me, research and learn about it maybe.


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The basics of benign bacteria is that ALL acid-tolerant and salt (chloride)-tolerant bacteria are benign.
There is one exception - botulism.
We have an acidic, chloride-filled gut which kills most things except acidopholus, lactobaccilli etc. but some things do still get past. Salt is a preservative in food simply makes it an unhealthy environment for growth of bugs which are unhealthy for us.




Thanks ted, I haven't heard it stated that way before, and I really do think you are spot on. Salt is my friend.. a much maligned friend. So then the obvious question becomes how do we get that nice acidic environment for our friendly acidophilus acid lovin' microbes? I am guessing they like loads of cabbage, greens, vegies, and perhaps the dietary fibre? Dietary fibre of course is something we with AS have to be cautious of .. since arjan, myself and one or two other pesople react to inulin.

Obviously we have to feed the friendly bugs well (prebiotics).


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It's easy (for me) to presume that people who react to inulin and fibre are from a different cultural perspective than myself.
Speaking of gut culture of course
Considering vinegar and acids are a major preservative group and i use them a lot - and usually together with inulin (vinegar and beetroot, cabbage and the sauerkraut acids/esters) i think i deliberately select my gut co-travellers.
These acids all have metabolic products which are alkaline - later in the gut they change pH to what is said (by most naturopaths) to be preferable - unlike the acidity of tomatos, citrus etc.
It works for me.
Now all i have to work out (for myself) is the other major preservative group...
Ethyl alcohol.
I'll get back to you after my research...
Grape harvest is upon us once again.


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about those lactobacilus / acidophilus .. isn't their waste product lactic acid?? OK, so these acids (when strong enough) then kill off most other weed bacteria. And just to add in a crazy theory: what if our body shunts the lactic acid produced by hard exercise to the gut to stabilise the fermentation going on.. If this was the case then the lack of hard exercise in modern society would explain a lot about the huge increases in immune disorders that are occurring in "first world" nations (eg. asthma)


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