Kickas.org Forums Ankylosing Spondylitis General Discussion #1 AS Web Support Group How many of us had / have covid?

My mother's side of the family lives in a rural area of about 10,000 people and some cases are there. They live life normally without masks or vaccinations and are not afraid of the virus at any age. The community has always been Conservative. I don't know what the hospital situation is like but a retired nurse tells me that there are patients there. Out there my 60-something uncle is in an assisted living home of about twenty people and the virus ran through his home too. Everybody tested positive. No deaths. My uncle did not notice a symptom.

My father's side are city dwellers like me and all are in a various degree of lockdown and report no events. One is a nurse and will not get the covid vaccine because it is too experimental. One of her kids has slight autism and believes that vaccinations are the cause. Two nurses in my family have often taken flu vaccines due to career and say that those vaccines don't make any difference.

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I lived in Wuhan for eight years and walked by the infamous wet market almost every day. In December 2019 my contacts back in Wuhan told me that there are rumours of a new virus in TongJi Hospital that seems to be transmittable through the air. All through January I was freaking out wondering why Canada wasn't closing the borders. Pelosi's “Go hug a Chinese person in Chinatown” political campaign disgusted me. Closing borders isn't racist. I no longer have any trust in the WHO, politicians, or excessively paid medical spokespersons. I demand multiple medical opinions and not just one narrative. Attacking Fauci isn't attacking science, but he says it is. I understand the culture of face in China and the importance of maintaining a level of good diplomacy with China. I never believed that the virus came from the wet market since I knew about the lab, other issues and events. The probability that it came from the lab was far too high. The wet market was just a way to save face, deflect responsibility and maintain diplomacy. Even I got caught up in the political correctness and spoke to others the accepted narrative -- that it came from the wet market -- just because I wanted to get along with the group and avoid people's wrath. There is also an aspect of me being politically correct because I like China and wanted to believe that it was the wet market; a defensive response. The virus is very likely from the lab but we will never be able to definitely prove it just like we will never be able to prove that Jeffrey Epstein and John McAfee were assassinated in prison. But we got Peter Nygard in jail too and I guess he didn't entertain enough politicians to earn an assassination. It is interesting that Bill Gates no longer is a coivd spokesperson. He has visited Jeffery Epstein many times but originally said that they never met.

All blood tests show that I don't have an SpA. I don't trust the tests. I know people in the Lyme Disease community and am aware of the testing reliability controversy. In 2018 a large panel for infectious diseases was done on me because I returned from China quite sick. I had antibodies for measles but hadn't had measles for 40 years. I guess I had a recent exposure. I had the Twinrix vaccine in 2008 but had no hepatitis antibodies in the test panel. I could go on. The bottom line is that the understanding of the immune system is full of inconsistencies. Not having antibodies doesn't mean that you are not immune. I've been exposed to the chicken pox virus many times and never caught it, never have had antibodies nor the vaccine. Science is never “settled.” One solution doesn't fit everyone. But I digress.

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I live in an immigrant community in Canada now and go to a Chinese market every week. It has been shut down for a day to be sterilized because a worker tested positive and had to isolate. I wager my money that others have had the virus, didn't know it and never were tested. Around March or May of 2020 I developed a very weak case of what may have been covid-19. I had malaise for about ten days, a stuffy nose and scratchy throat, oxygen hunger but no phlegm or shortness of breath, and got nauseous on two occasions; threw up once. At the time I was already taking Mg, Zn, quercetin, large doses of vitamin D and C. The purpose wasn't for resistance to covid but instead to heal my gut and just for regular immune system boosting. Perhaps that combination really helps protect us from covid. I may even had been taking azithromycin for five weeks because I was being treated for bartonella. I know that I had the azithromycin before the symptoms. A year later I tested negative for covid antibodies.

Four friends reported having covid symptoms and three got testing which came back positive. Three just stayed home but one ended up hospitalized since he was about 400 lbs. The positive side effect of covid is that he lost about 100 lbs. He is back to work.

Six friends have had vaccinations. One died from the second shot but he was in his 60s, yet strong and healthy. One friend developed covid-like symptoms for a short time after the first vaccination perhaps because his body was already primed from his previous covid infection for which he had symptoms and a positive test. The second vaccine seemed like saline.