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i've been on a no-starch diet for one month and am now getting mouth ulcers. does anyone know why this is happening?
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What are you eating? Can you tell us in as much detail as possible please.
I get ulcers whenever my mouth gets scratched. It didn't get worse with the NSD though.. I'm pretty sure it was exactly the same beforehand.
Recently I was out at a chinese restaurant with friends, and over a period of about an hour of drinking regular cups of jasmine tea I found my two mouth ulcers both felt a lot better. I was supping at the tea regularly from those little chinese tea cups. Probably had about 8 tiny cup fulls in all. Something to try perhaps?
what I can eat on the diet (click here) -- my blog -- contact me (PM is broken) "Some men, in truth, live that they may eat, as the irrational creatures, 'whose life is their belly, and nothing else.' But the Instructor enjoins us to eat that we may live." -- Clement of Alexandria (about 200 AD)
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Oh, also try finding a probiotic with a large number of strains in it. I use "Swanson's" and "Primal Defence" brands. They have about 12 to 15 strains of microbes. Might not help, but makes logical sense as something to try since ulcers are a symptom of nasty flora (or sometimes viral apparently?!?).
what I can eat on the diet (click here) -- my blog -- contact me (PM is broken) "Some men, in truth, live that they may eat, as the irrational creatures, 'whose life is their belly, and nothing else.' But the Instructor enjoins us to eat that we may live." -- Clement of Alexandria (about 200 AD)
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now that i'm much better between flares, now i realize mouth ulcers are part of the beginning of me flaring (along with the irritated (but not inflamed) eyes (dry at the least)).
at first i swore it must be something i was eating.
but in between flares, i can eat the same things and not have mouth ulcers.
for me, mouth ulcers (and inflamed tongue papillae) are simply a sign of flaring.
when i have them, acidic food makes them hurt worse, so at that time, i just try to avoid the acidic food (citrus, tomato sauce, etc)
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Spondyloarthropathy, HLAB27 negative Humira (still methylprednisone for flares, just not as often. Aleve if needed, rarely.) LDN/zanaflex/flector patches over SI/ice vits C, D. probiotics. hyaluronic acid. CoQ, Mg, Ca, K. chiro walk, bike no dairy (casein sensitivity), limited eggs, limited yeast (bread)
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Hi
I haven't figured out what causes my mouth ulcers and inflammed tonque. It flares and then settles down. I can't say it is related to the A/S. I feel flared most of the time.
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It could be you're eating more of something that can cause them. I think eating about half a pineapple did it to me once.
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Believe it or not, Listerine makes my mouth ulcers feel better. It is an antiseptic so maybe that is why it feels beeter after swishing. I did not notice the no starch diet affecting my mouth ulcers.
Diet change has improved my RA. I feel best eating raw veggies and some fruits and avoiding grains, sugars, nightshades, beans and dairy. Sed rate dropped from 65 to 19, but it took over a year. www.fatsickandnearlydead.com excess fat/oils = pain for me recipes for raw food on Youtube "raw food romance" and "healing josephine" Josephine is in remission from RA after two years by change diet/exercise
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I think the no starch diet decreases ones immune system, which would bring about more mouth sores.
I use Orajel mouth sore rinse and it seems to help.
Shari
Meds -Hizentra, leflunomide, Prednisone
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I think the no starch diet decreases ones immune system, which would bring about more mouth sores. No starch diet is not supposed to decrease your immune system, and does not for most of us. Dieting is just supposed to lower the triggers for inflammation, as opposed to biologics and other medicines which are intended to dampen specific parts of the immune response. If you are experiencing lowered immunity, it could be worth looking into getting tested for nutritional deficiencies.
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>> I think the no starch diet decreases ones immune system
The immune system is a complex beast. When in flare mode my body will produce more immune cells, yes that is true. However the immune cells are of the wrong type, and targeting the wrong parts of my body, hence it is an ineffective army that is ignoring the real threats such as colds/flus/throat infections/etc.
When my body is out of flare, after a few weeks the immune systems settles down in to a better regulated and calm mode where it can react swiftly to real threats properly. That means: less flu, less ulcers, etc. But I'm finding that this really does take a bit longer.. it might take 2 or 3 weeks for the immune system to be fully functional again after a flare.
what I can eat on the diet (click here) -- my blog -- contact me (PM is broken) "Some men, in truth, live that they may eat, as the irrational creatures, 'whose life is their belly, and nothing else.' But the Instructor enjoins us to eat that we may live." -- Clement of Alexandria (about 200 AD)
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