uh, huh, that's why I couldn't find you---i was looking for "John" in California, little did I know you were out slaying dragons these days. "DRAGONSLAYER, STARCHSLAYER" thanks for saying hi! so glad the starch free continues to work for you and you have led so many people down the right path. I will follow up on some of your past posts to see what trouble exactly you have been up to. 20 hour surgery? this isn't a new one, right, we're talkin about the old one? Oh, and by the way, did I print 39, that was supposed to be a 2 ! love ya! t