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Can someone tell me the difference between NSD, GAPS, and Specific Carbohydrate Diet?


Other than using squash and some spices, I can't find too much difference.


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Pain since 1989
Mis-diagnosed until 2011
SI joints somewhat fused, lower back is trying to fuse
Osteoarthritis in hips
Follows NSD
Takes Ibuprofen only when needed
Loves to swim.
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Hey Utah,

Unsure of the other diets... NSD only eliminates or reduces starch. Starch is a complex carb. The diet does not eliminate other carbs that are not starches.. therefore we can eat a lot of veggies and fruits without limit. Just eliminate the starchy ones.

The premise behind NSD is that starch is not easily digested and therefore provides food substance for bacteria in the gut includeing klebseilla.

Tim


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SCD alows some small starch into your diet - it comes from toot veggies and beans mostly.
it does not allow sugar and not any modern additives. also fresh diary is not allowed except home made yogurt (no lactose there). hard cheese is allowed.

i've made a mix between SCD and NSD and i feel ok on it. sugar is a big problem for me.

don't know anything about GAP's though.


34. Some rheumys say AS stage 1-2 some others say USpA
Also UC - rectocolitis.

UC curently in remission since feb 2011.
AS/USpA remission march-aug 2011. Flare - sept-nov 2011 (antibiotics). Remission now...

Modified NSD/SCD. Cook your own !
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Like Alinus, my diet is a combination

* NSD - only trace amounts of starch (eat flax, walnuts, and blanched almond flour which are reported to have trace amounts). Things like squash and beans are definitely off my list, despite being allowed for SCD.

* SCD - like many people I don't seem to digest lactose well, so lactose is about as bad as starch; have been eating plenty of homemade yogurt made out of lactose-free milk. Also FOS (fructooligosaccarides, no wonder everyone abbreviates it) is disallowed for SCD. I avoid foods high in FOS as well, after discovering artichokes and asparagus were raising my inflammation despite being considered NSD-safe.



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Hi,
I am just looking into GAPS I am reading the book and have bought the recipe book (the ones I've tried so far are yum).

A very helpful allowed/avoid food list came with the recipe book it is very similar to the NSD I would say it is closer to the SCD than NSD (in my humble novice opinion) if comparisons were to be made. There are some allowed things in there that are starchy such as certain types of beans, also bananas (ripe only), some root veg eg turnip. Certain cheeses are allowed like on the SCD. There is also an emphasis on fermented foods including yoghurts and vegetables and bone broth.
However If you are following GAPS to the letter you gradually introduce the cheeses yoghurts etc a bit like an elimination diet but with a different angle.


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No dairy hard cheeses occasionally and homemade ghee
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Thanks all for the info. A friend of mine is following the GAPS diet to heal her gut. So far it seems to be working for her. She suggested I used it for my AS but I am getting such great results on NSD that I think I'll stick to what I'm doing.


Teri
http://agluten-freemama.blogspot.com/

Pain since 1989
Mis-diagnosed until 2011
SI joints somewhat fused, lower back is trying to fuse
Osteoarthritis in hips
Follows NSD
Takes Ibuprofen only when needed
Loves to swim.
Still working 5 days a week as a secretary then 5 nights a week waitressing.

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