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hey Violeta i watched the video...I can't really alter my opinion on a five min video of of someone saying they don't agree with FMT. She does push Probiotics ..isn't FMT a probiotic? I am not familiar with Donna Pessin. Have you tried her program? I read er story and it is touching. at the same time she seems to sell sell sell. she goes on to say,

"I learned how to heal my bowel and how to safely but aggressively eliminate the enormous storage of acids/toxins in my body. This accomplished a healing of my body that all of the other programs—which only treat the symptoms of an acidic/ toxic body—never would or could accomplish."

Im curious what her approach is. I know water only fasting is proven to achieve this in a generally short period of time, it's just a question on how to keep those results .


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Originally Posted By: evand1991
hey Violeta i watched the video...I can't really alter my opinion on a five min video of of someone saying they don't agree with FMT. She does push Probiotics ..isn't FMT a probiotic? I am not familiar with Donna Pessin. Have you tried her program? I read er story and it is touching. at the same time she seems to sell sell sell. she goes on to say,

"I learned how to heal my bowel and how to safely but aggressively eliminate the enormous storage of acids/toxins in my body. This accomplished a healing of my body that all of the other programs—which only treat the symptoms of an acidic/ toxic body—never would or could accomplish."

Im curious what her approach is. I know water only fasting is proven to achieve this in a generally short period of time, it's just a question on how to keep those results .


Yes, she does push probiotics. She's not saying that the health of the bowel isn't important. In fact, her whole approach is to heal the bowel. As you said with the results of water fasting being hard to hold on to, can you imagine the difficulty of holding onto the results of a fecal transplant?

She's saying that if your bowel is sick, you have to most likely clean up other stuff in your body. Also, if your bowel is sick, it contains a lot of toxic stuff. Imagine planting a garden. You put a plant on top of hard, dead soil. Will it take? Probably not. There's a lot of stuff built up in there that needs to come out. Not only in your colon, but in your small intestines, too. Then you start to let the toxins come out of your glands and organs. How can you have a healthy bowel if your stomach, liver, and pancreas aren't working right? It's impossible. Even water fasting can't break up the stuff in your liver, small intestines, and colon. I learned a lot from gardening. Put the fertilizer on top of some hard soil and walk away. Some will seep down, some will get washed away. Try making a compost pile.
I don't buy her stuff, I just learn from her. I don't do everything she recommends; I do look, listen, and learn, though.

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Come on, it takes more than a paperboard to look serious. Many studies shown that actual probiotics are not efficient on AS. But it could change very soon.

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I post it here because fatigue is a real part of AS :


http://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=119626231492520;res=IELHEA

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Re: Fecal transplant & Helminthic therapy [Re: evand1991]
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I'm not a doctor but I guess there are some biologic risks (they probably check a possible infection for exemple) and some psychologic risks for the kid. Moreover this method is quite new so there is no long view on it, even if i think it's saffer than anti tnf (but once again I'm not a doctor).
I found an other interresting article about immunity and microbiome :
http://www.musculoskeletalnetwork.com/rheumatic-diseases/content/article/1145622/2133513


I cant seem to find his post, but as well as the article above, I believe it was Dragon Slayer who also mentioned his/your use of an antibiotic proto-call. It's also briefly mentioned on this website: http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.ca/2013/12/antibiotics-gluten-hashimotos.html
Does anybody know how to determine the need for or the kind of antibiotics etc.?
First post here, maybe wrong section?

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Sorry, found the link http://www.roadback.org/
The results from a few kickas'ers didn't sound too promising. Has anyone else had any success?

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For success stories, check out:

http://thepowerofpoop.com

I think, hope, that quickly it will get to the point of purifying the gut microbes from a healthy person and putting them into pill form as super duper probiotics:

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/poop-pills-are-latest-way-cure-dangerous-c-diff-infections-8C11300066

I can't wait until that day comes. I envision a day where my spondyloarthropathy and metabolic syndrome are both "cured" / improved and maybe I can stop with the drugs for both. smile



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Thanks for the reply, Sue 22.
I am also on the quest for my holy grail(a complete cure) A bit optimistic but this site IS called KICKas, not, massageitandtakeitoutonthetownAS.org
Based on the info this site and others have provided,I would like to put together a plan of attack on how to beat this condition. Any advise as to where I would post it so that I could get maximum exposure and/or responses from the helpful kickas.org community?

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