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#367092 - 12/01/0908:57 AMRe: What to do about healthcare? Can it be fixed?
I need to add that I believe that healthcare should not be yoked to any means of "work" (or lack there of) that someone puts in to society. Who is righteous enough to judge what work is more important than another?
You don't see a problem where everybody wants but no one is there to do to enable the want? I don't think anyone is judging what an individual chooses to do with their life. Rather, it is a statement that individuals shouldn't expect a segment of society to support them while they pursue their, possibly, unfruitful endeavors.
Right now MONEY is dictating who gets healthcare, and last I checked MONEY is a poor poor poor (I'm not sure I can say it enough) judge of character.
I don't see that changing under any government sponsored/run health insurance program. It will be subject to budgetary constraints and will suffer cutbacks, contrary to what the pols might promise. Heck just look at Social Security and the fact there are no cost-of-living increases in the upcoming year. That's odd, there's still inflation contrary to what the government and their numbers tell you. Oh...I forgot...their inflation numbers don't include food or energy. Why, that sounds like a tax right there.
Also, agreed, money is a poor judge of character. Should we go back to bartering? That's why I, for example, judge people on the quality of their character, not on what material possessions they may or may not have.
Also, it is my belief a large portion of those who lead others to believe they have money have nothing but a fat credit line, and therefore lots of debt. Many with money don't flaunt it. They also are fairly charitable.
By the way, tax payers, shouldn't you be more frustrated that a large portion of your taxes go to pay off a fake debt that was concocted out of thin air? That's entire lifetimes of 'work' and 'servitude' going to a fake number that doesn't really even exist. All while you could be getting healthcare. But that's the system we live in. Increasing national debts made out of money that doesn't even exist and the creditors telling us which programs to cut (or hand over) in order to pay them their interest back. Otherwise, "we'll make your national "Fico" score look bad to the ROW and your 'currency' or value of means in which you trade, will go into the garbage."
I don't understand the statement about the "fake debt concocted out of thin air". I'm not challenging the statement per se, I'm just trying to understand what you mean. I also don't understand the "fake number that doesn't really even exist." passage either. Please help me understand. Yes, fiat "paper" money is nothing but a sham. Pretty soon not worth the paper it's printed on if not already the case. The creditors in the case of the nation are primarily other nations (China and Japan are our largest creditors); it is up to the pols to manage the finances, and they do a lousy job. Yes, the idea of credit-worthiness is somewhat silly, but other nations, if they are to purchase debt, need some measure(s) of another nation's ability to service that debt. I don't necessarily agree with these principals/ideas, but it is currently how the system operates. Until change can be effected, well, it looks like we deal...
Perhaps we should go back to bartering.
Kind Regards, Jay
Almost all of us long for peace and freedom; but very few of us have much enthusiasm for the thoughts, feelings, and actions that make for peace and freedom. - Aldous Huxley
Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. - Thomas Jefferson