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#515556 - 08/01/16 05:24 AM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
AndyJ Offline

Registered: 06/04/15
Posts: 22
Loc: Queensland, Australia
Hi Havsurf,

NSD will reduce inflammation which will make it easier to heal your gut. Apple cider vinegar won't do to much in healing your gut, but just make your stomach more acidic as it should be, it improved digestion. I never really took apple cider to heal my gut, you can take acidic probiotic drinks instead (water kefir and/or kombucha), they will have the same affect, but also include lots of good bacteria/enzymes.

Hydrogen Peroxide will help kill a lot of the bad bacteria (including Klebsiella), but also help the good bacteria to grow. I had one guy tell me his AS was so bad he was in bed the whole summer, but after he took peroxide it made a massive difference and shortly after he was running.

For me, the probiotics & peroxide alone helped a lot, but the final cure came when I also introduced slow cooking/bone broths. If you can do that with healthy meat (pasture fed or wild caught seafood), it shouldn't be long before you will heal your gut.

#515563 - 08/01/16 08:17 PM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
miniowl Offline

Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 107
When you were slow cooking bone broths, did you eat any raw foods like salads or do they irritate the digestive tract? Did you also slow cook vegetables?

#515565 - 08/02/16 12:54 AM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
AndyJ Offline

Registered: 06/04/15
Posts: 22
Loc: Queensland, Australia

I didn't eat salad's regularly, I mostly threw in vegies in the slow cooker with the meat. I'd eat it with mash (potato/sweet potato) or organic rice and have a bit of homemade raw (unpasteurised) sauerkraut on the side. Cooked vegies do lose some nutrients, but what is left is far more digestible than with a raw salad. Sauerkraut although being raw is fermented and very easily digested (it contains lots of probiotics and enzymes).

The raw diet is just a current fad but people will eventually realise raw is often not best, each food must be prepared a certain way for optimal absorption. I've seen low fat, high fiber & high protein diet fads, that's all rubbish. It just makes some nutritionists lots of money promoting their ideas, but has little health benefits to those who fall for it.

A huge key to healing the gut is having foods that are easy to digest. So food preparation is very important. There is a book called Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon that discusses the importance of food preparation and contains a lot of recipes.

#515567 - 08/02/16 11:21 AM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
Havsurf Offline

Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 5
Loc: California, USA
Hello Andy,
Thank you for your response. I will start on the Hydrogen Peroxide today to see how works out. Hopefully it will do me some good.

#515575 - 08/03/16 08:05 PM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
miniowl Offline

Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 107
Thanks Andy!

#516185 - 11/29/16 06:32 AM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
drone3 Offline

Registered: 03/12/16
Posts: 35
Andy this post is seriously inspiring, thanks for all the info!

Im in Melbourne and I'm trying to source food grade hydrogen peroxide, there are a few shops online but i have no idea who to trust, where do you get yours from?

1992-'93 DX Colitis -> Total Colectomy / J-Pouch.
2015 DX Sacroilitis (USpA, AS?)
Taking - Humira, MTX, H2O2, Triphala, Transdermal Magnesium
Diet - No Sugar/Dairy/Starch/Alcohol

#516187 - 12/01/16 06:09 AM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
AndyJ Offline

Registered: 06/04/15
Posts: 22
Loc: Queensland, Australia
Hi Drone,

Probably ebay is the easiest place to find Food Grade H2O2. Try to find one that says: "no chemical stabalizers".

#518128 - 01/25/18 09:21 AM Re: How I cured my AS [Re: AndyJ]
Robin_H Offline

Registered: 09/13/15
Posts: 162
Loc: Hubei, China
Originally Posted By AndyJ
... The key turning point was when I changed from frying to slow cooking meat (grass fed of course) with bones and having bone broths.

That struck me because when I first went to NSD I was making vegetable and meat stir-fries and still had gut pain. Then I recalled the idea that "too much fried food isn't good." It also creates LPS by the way. So I pulled out the steamer and began steaming my vegetables; enough for supper and the next day's breakfast. But I still was stir-frying the chicken (and beef once a week) lightly in oil. It made a big difference but i still was having a healing barrier.

I suspected broccoli for some reason. So I took it out and finally went into remission but I was stuck on the NDS.

These days I know that cooked broccoli is classified as a soluble starch and wont make it to the colon but instead get broken down in the small intestine where I think much of AS troubles are.

Another point that stood out is fasting. I don't like it but am starting to get the impression that it is necessary.

The whole original post was full of good ideas. H2O2 is another item I have wanted to add for a while but am having a hard time sourcing it in a pharmacy here... language barrier I think.
HLA-B27 neg; Mis-diagnosed with fibromyalgia in mid-20s.
Vague AS symptoms in 20s and early 30s (no diagnosis).
During age 47 (2015) from NSAID use developed complete axial inflammation (started from from skull and progressed down to sacrum). Included psoriasis. Trigger in scull was reverse blockage in a SCUBA mishap in 2013. Straw that broke the camels back was over use of NSAIDs. NSD works well but not perfect. Strong involvement between symptoms and gut integrity.

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