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#519220 - 11/23/18 11:04 AM Probiotics - the debate on which ones
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Registered: 12/11/17
Posts: 11
Loc: Canada UK USA
Does anyone have a view on using certain probiotics over others? I been using Bio-K probiotics in mango flavor due to a specifically having the Lactobacillus rhamnosus CLR2®. I've had great results.

I avoid the flavors of probiotic that are stored in a rice formula or anything pertaining to starch. This eliminates most flavors and puts me with the mango flavor for Bio-K.

Recently, I have tried to add Saccharomyces Boulardii due to some research suggesting it helps keep bacteria down in the gut for AS. I haven't found a positive or negative outcome this week.

Does anyone know of any studies that suggest to go one way over another way with probiotics?
Don't confuse movement with actions.

#519222 - 11/25/18 06:18 AM Re: Probiotics - the debate on which ones [Re: sexyAS]
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Registered: 11/01/18
Posts: 23
Originally Posted By tiredAS

Does anyone know of any studies that suggest to go one way over another way with probiotics?

May I respectfully suggest your question should be "Does anyone know of any studies that prove if probiotics actually are of any benefit to sufferers of A.S.?"

#519235 - 11/28/18 06:03 PM Re: Probiotics - the debate on which ones [Re: Cymro]
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Registered: 12/11/17
Posts: 11
Loc: Canada UK USA
I did find one publication which lead me down this rabbit trail. This is why I continue using them.
Don't confuse movement with actions.

#519241 - 12/04/18 10:45 PM Re: Probiotics - the debate on which ones [Re: sexyAS]
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Registered: 05/25/09
Posts: 419
Loc: brooklyn, ny
Probiotics are an essential part of my diet ... Without them I backslide from my normal "diet induced remission". I use all different ones.... Kombucha, homemade goat yogurt, Innereco coconut kefir and on occation pills (I actually forgot which ones, as have used themless and less once I found more food like sources that work for me.i do not remember clearly,but I think BioK was one I tried but did not think worked for me.
My yum:
celery/avocado/spinach/kale/arugula/chard/lettuce/wakame/nori/sunflower sprouts(no seeds)/pea greens(no peas)/all organic meats/bone broths/all fish/free range eggs/ oils: hazelnut/coconut/pecan/olive/walnut/pecan/pumpkin/avocado/ghee/nut butters: hazelnut/brazil nut/skinless marcona almond/ pumpkin seed (some batches starchy)/tahini/coconut flour/coconut kefir/homemade 72 hour goats milk yogurt/umeboshi paste/camu camu/thyme/grey sea salt/Supreme Spice oil extracts/Garlic infused oils

#519243 - 12/05/18 01:21 PM Re: Probiotics - the debate on which ones [Re: sexyAS]
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Registered: 06/02/07
Posts: 526
Loc: phoenix
probiotics greatly flare up my AS.

Nobody really understands the ecology of the gut.

It's a total crapshoot to take these and to know which one you need.

Just understand they may actually hurt you.

#519261 - 12/08/18 02:19 AM Re: Probiotics - the debate on which ones [Re: light]
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Registered: 11/10/18
Posts: 4
Originally Posted By light
homemade goat yogurt

Can you share your recipe for homemade goat yogurt? I tried myself and while I managed to get homemade yogurt using commercial yogurt as starter, I haven't succeed yet in making yogurt using my own yogurt as starter.

I don't have a yogurt maker

#519264 - 12/08/18 12:31 PM Re: Probiotics - the debate on which ones [Re: sexyAS]
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Registered: 09/26/16
Posts: 37
Loc: Cape Town, South Africa
I strongly recommend that you get hold of 'The Keystone Approach', an excellent and thoroughly researched book by Rebecca Fett. She deals very comprehensively with the subject of probiotics for the spondyloarthropathies, explaining why some are better than others.

In summary, we need bifidobacteria because they produce butyrate. Butyrate helps calm the immune system, and also feeds the specific bacteria we are needing to build up.

She recommends about three brands of probiotic if I remember correctly, one of them being Gutpro Infant. This apparently contains no fillers or prebiotics whatsoever, so should be a good choice for anyone who finds that probiotics with fillers make their symptoms worse.
Spondyloarthropathy with symptoms of AS, Sjögrens and fibro. Previously took Celebrex, Methotrexate, Trepiline, Prednisone which seemed to trigger a flare and my illness became much worse. Symptoms now kept mostly under control with NSD, as well as cutting sugar, dairy and yeast and food intolerances. Mostly pain free now and all symptoms massively improved.


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