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#517597 - 09/11/17 12:24 AM Collage type 2
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"It's oral ingestion appears to reduce autoimmunity to the body's own CII, resulting in less inflammation in instances of osteoarthritis and rheumatism and benefits to joint health."

https://examine.com/supplements/type-ii-collagen/

Has anyone tried this?
Haven't heard much about this one.

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#517643 - 09/28/17 06:27 PM Re: Collage type 2 [Re: j87x]
MollyC1i Offline
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Hmmmmmmmm. Am sceptical. Totally new to me. Have not seen on any of my RSS feeds. No mention anywhere and no mention in other patient groups. Has got a good website, but... Would advise : approach with caution.
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#517645 - 09/29/17 06:50 AM Re: Collage type 2 [Re: MollyC1i]
Frederick Offline
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Originally Posted By MollyC1i


Has got a good website, but...


Yes very good perhaps too good!

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#517648 - 09/29/17 07:47 AM Re: Collage type 2 [Re: Frederick]
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Yep. Agreed - <g> Smacks of a hyped up PR exercise / spin !!.
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#517691 - 10/06/17 04:06 PM Re: Collage type 2 [Re: j87x]
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Even if the initial claims are BS, it seems that collagen has other prebiotic benefits and feeds beneficial bacteria in the gut: https://fixyourgut.com/the-digestive-benefits-of-using-collagen-as-a-prebiotic/

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#517693 - 10/07/17 01:17 PM Re: Collage type 2 [Re: j87x]
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I have never tried type II collagen supplements but I have seen some of the research supporting its use. Here's a handy collection: http://www.ergo-log.com/collagen.html

What I do have experience with is plain old gelatin and found that it did wonders for my joints. I first tried it years ago, long before I'd heard of AS, when I was so debilitated by arthritis in my knee that I couldn't walk without pain and stairs were a nightmare. I was only in my mid-thirties. I was told I had advanced OA due to wear and tear which I thought I was way too young to have.

I eventually dropped dairy and it became less painful but it didn't really improve. So I added 2 daily doses of 1 Tbsp gelatin, morning and night, separate from other food.

After a few months my knee improved significantly. It stopped swelling after exercise, and I had less grinding and clicking. My knee feels better now than it did 10 years ago, even though I'm that much older. My back and neck also improved. I now take it periodically when my joints start to hurt, which is really only when I stray from the NSD. I also make bone broths and gelatinous cuts of meat to support both my joints and the lining of my gut.

I can't speak to the science - I only care about my own n=1 results, I don't really care how or why it works. I chose the easy budget option - plain gelatin powder - and I can say with confidence that it was extremely effective. I am now in my 40s and extremely active and I credit gelatin with making that possible. Modifying my diet stopped the disease progression but I believe gelatin actually reversed the damage to my joints.


Edited by Kellybells (10/07/17 01:18 PM)
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2010 - stopped eating dairy
2012 - stopped eating wheat
2014 - stopped eating all grains
Jan 2017 - discovered NSD - 98% improvement in symptoms, continually amazed by my results, wish I'd found kickAS sooner

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