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#516269 - 12/19/16 05:24 PM Enbrel?
Boroboy Offline
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Registered: 10/25/03
Posts: 467
Loc: North East, U.K.
Anyone had any good results with Enbrel? Any side effects relating to it?
I'm soon to start onto Enbrel my 4th Anti TNF treatment in around 12 years. I was on Simponi, but stopped this around 3 months ago. Due to being less effective regarding pain control & due continuous sinusitis & ear problems. My sinusitis & ear issues have 100% improved now, after stopping the Simponi. It took around 2 months to do so, after my last injection. I'm now hoping Enbrel gives me less side effects & improved pain control.

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#516315 - 12/31/16 06:00 PM Re: Enbrel? [Re: Boroboy]
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Registered: 07/05/10
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I found that raw food diet/no starch diet is best in treating my si joint pain. I hope you feel better soon.
take care

I tried Humira and Remicade in the past but not Enbrel since they use fetal human tissues when they make Enbrel.

https://www.sott.net/article/242726-Avoid-Any-Products-Containing-Aborted-Fetal-Cells
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#516332 - 01/02/17 12:05 PM Re: Enbrel? [Re: Boroboy]
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Enbrel does not contain fetal human tissues. Snopes.com debunked this old rumour as False.

Since I've been fortunate in having the first biologic I tried (Remicade) continued to be effective for me, I haven't needed to try others so have no experience with Enbrel.

I hope it proves to be an effective option for you, Boroboy - best of luck!
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#516362 - 01/05/17 05:10 AM Re: Enbrel? [Re: Boroboy]
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Registered: 04/11/02
Posts: 3604
Loc: Canada
I had excellent results with enbrel but no other biologic, and I've tried many now. The only problem I had with enbrel was that it only lasted 3 years for me!
Good luck!

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#516464 - 01/19/17 05:11 PM Re: Enbrel? [Re: Boroboy]
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Megan,
It seems to be the case with a lot of people, that Anti Tnf treatment seems to be less effective after time.
Remicade was my first, around 12 years ago I tried that. Certainly gave be the best results, with regards to pain control.
I've now been Anti Tnf free for 5 months now. My immune system just seemed to be too low to rush into starting a new one straight away. Picking up continuous low level infections etc. I'm receiving my first Enbrel delivery tomorrow, so hopefully soon, I'll try a shot. Going to wait until my current cold clears up first. Colds seem to be common place here in the U.K at the moment, well I suppose its winter now.
Are you on biologics now?

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#516465 - 01/19/17 05:15 PM Re: Enbrel? [Re: ValsMum]
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I've tried eradication diets in the past, found that they actually made me feel worse. For me a healthy balanced diet is the best option. Although I do realise some diets seem to work well for others. It's a case of matching the best treatment for the individual.

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#516584 - 02/12/17 07:49 AM Re: Enbrel? [Re: Boroboy]
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Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 115
Originally Posted By Boroboy


For me a healthy balanced diet is the best option. Although I do realise some diets seem to work well for others.


Yes I agree very much re. the balanced diet but have still to come across a case where any diet actually works as a treatment for A.S.

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#517427 - 07/17/17 09:37 AM Re: Enbrel? [Re: ValsMum]
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Registered: 01/24/09
Posts: 68
Loc: SF Bay Area, CA, USA
Etanercept is not expressed in any fetal cell lines. It is produced using Chinese Hamster Ovary cells, which is a common expression system (Section 11, product insert)

The whole "aborted fetal tissues" thing is kind of like a modern blood libel against anything biotech. These cell lines have been in use since the late 1960s and early 1970s. I believe there are only two lines in wide use. The whole reason these immortalized lines are used is to prevent having to harvest more such tissues in the future.

For the development of human medicines, especially as we proceed into the biotechnological era, human cell lines will be essential to research, development, and production. Some of these cell lines are old fetal-derived lines and others are old tumor-derived cell lines. If we use fetal-derived lines, people bray about that. If we use tumor-derived lines, people bray about that.

If we use neither, then we go back to the 1950s.

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#517432 - 07/18/17 06:47 AM Re: Enbrel? [Re: MikeGinnyMD]
Frederick Offline
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Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 115
Originally Posted By MikeGinnyMD


If we use neither, then we go back to the 1950s.


There are unfortunately some who would be only too glad to take us back to even before the 1950s.

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