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#516804 - 03/20/17 11:47 AM Any other vegans out there?
LizDC Offline
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Registered: 03/16/17
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Hey folks--I've been reading the forums for a couple months, since getting the AS diagnosis after years of chronic pain. There's so much great info here, and it's already been a tremendous source of support.

My rheumatologist is pushing to get me on biologics, but I'm resisting and trying the NSD. The diet has been helpful so far, but as you all know it's pretty restrictive, and even more so for vegans. I've been vegan for 20+ years with no intention of giving it up. Are there any others out there who have found some success with vegan NSD and have any tips?

Surely there must be a couple of us.....somewhere? smile

Thanks so much!

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#517168 - 05/27/17 09:21 PM Re: Any other vegans out there? [Re: LizDC]
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Registered: 03/21/17
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Yes! Are you still attempting the NSD? I'm trying but not easy

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#517169 - 05/27/17 10:02 PM Re: Any other vegans out there? [Re: LizDC]
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Liz,

I don't blame you a bit for resisting the biologics. I quit mine after just 3 injections.

The path I've decided to go down is the whole foods plant based diet. It's the Forks Over Knives inspired lifestyle. I also have been watching a lot of Dr John McDougall's webinars lately and bought his book The Starch Solution. It's pretty much completely contrary to the NSD, but it resonates with me.

I say stay vegan, but I'd also be careful to avoid the delicious processed vegan junk food options and stick to the natural basics. I'm thinking for now I'm also steering clear of gluten for a bit.

I don't fault anyone on here for eating anyway they feel will guide them to a pain free existence.

Good luck to both of you.

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#517487 - 08/06/17 10:58 AM Re: Any other vegans out there? [Re: LizDC]
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Hello Fellow Vegans,
I haven't tried the NSD, Even before the AS onset I was a big fan of intermittent fasting. I find a short fast works to relieve my pain, but it returns shortly after I take up eating.
I was put on Meloxicam(NSAID) and for awhile was dependent on taking that every day, But I resisted the drug route and searched for other interventions, like NSD.

Strengthening the gut lining is one thing I feel deserves much more credit than it deserves. The NSAID’s prescribed actually decrease production of the stomach and gut lining, aside from increasing your risk of ulcers your rick of “leaky gut” is also increased. When Bacteria and foods are able to get past your gut and actually inside your body, it can facilitate an immune response. Curcumin(turmeric extract) has been shown to reduce inflammation along with increasing your guy barrier, It’s a supplement I take. I’d recommend Thorne Meriva supplement. NSAID’s are a great short term solution, but I worry that by increasing gut permeability they will leave you dependent on them in the long term.

With curcumin, and a Whole foods plant based diet(while avoiding suspicious foods for my like millet and quinoa) Most days I'm pain free and able to run and bike (:

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#517625 - 09/26/17 07:59 AM Re: Any other vegans out there? [Re: LizDC]
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Vegan and NSD is possible.

1.) You have to eat fruit based suplemented with salads and steamed non starch vegetables. Due to the high sugar content of fruit, you have to keep your fat intake low otherwise you will get candida since fat slows down the absorbtion of sugar into your cells.
2.) The alternative to a fruit based NSD-diet would be a fat-based NSD-diet. You can eat non starchy vegetables, berries and high amounts of cokonut oil / olive oil / olives / some walnuts.

In my experience I prefer the fruit based diet (1) to the fat based diet (2), because I have much higher energy levels. However in winter (1) can be tough.

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