http://www.geonomis.com/article/italian-court-officially-recognizes-vaccines-cause-autism

"Italian health ministry recently conceded that the MMR vaccine caused autism in a now nine-year-old boy, who suffered brain inflammation and permanent brain damage after he was vaccinated."

"Controversial" MMR Vaccine Research Replicated and Accurate
"...research actually showed, and the long list of studies done since then by other researchers back up his initial findings."



I reckon that there is still a lot to emerge, and for myself, believe the links are there in certain *Susceptible persons, and if they had kept to single shots spaced well apart then most of these problems would never have occured. Still leaves the most susceptible. Perhaps another part of the answer is, to develop a cheap and easy test to recognise those at risk of vaccine reactions, and for those to eschew vaccinations, or, the development of a variation of vaccines. But certainly, single shots, spaced well apart would most likely be reassuring and of notable benefit.

We know in the animal world, that many animals (especially horses - having known several cases) will react badly to the 'multiple' vaccine shot (5 in a shot). Whereas other of the equine world do not have/will not have bad reactions to the multiple vaccine. (Multiple vaccine shots are not confined to equines, and neither are the side reactions).

Cannot set owt in concrete and 'one size fits all' is a dangerous game.

The problem is that it is just too hard to pin down what is definitely vaccine related and what might have happened anyway (given that vaccines start being given so young), so there is never going to be really good research on vaccine damage. Its also not just autism - much more severe brain damage (leading to severe physical disability) is also possible.

My family has quite a number of "nerdy", borderline aspergers folk, but interestingly some of the ones who appeared the worst affected to the point of being under mental health treatment and unable to work or go to school became pretty much completely "cured" after being diagnosed with coeliac disease and going on gluten free diets. Coincidentally, those are also the ones who had bad vaccine reactions as kids. I don't think it was the vaccine that made them "autistic" - I think the consequences of malabsorption and coeliac brain fog made them appear that way, and it was them having the untreated autoimmune condition (or the tendency to autoimmune conditions) that made it more likely they would react to vaccines - which of course are actually designed to have an impact on your immune system.

I do think though, that for people with autoimmune histories, vaccines really do need to be treated with extreme caution. Aussiegirls kids are a great example of not just doing the blanket vaccination programme, but doing it in an individual way designed to have least negative consequence. Molly's statement about single vaccines, well spaced, is another way of doing it that seems to work.

More information, and more choices in how and what you get vaccinated for are definitely needed.

Hear, Hear Molly,

I think single vaccines should be given not multiple.

I opted for single vaccines not combined MMR for my son from mothers instict and family history and I am so glad I did knowing now that my immune system/gut are not all they should be. Also when I was a child the doctor was just about to give me my measles vaccination when he suddenly asked my mum as if an afterthought 'Is she allergic to eggs? This was purely because he was particularly aware of allergies because his son had reacted to anaesthetic the previous day. As it happened I did show a slight reaction to eggs at the time so no vaccine for me (I later had measles in the school summer hols as a teenager). Naturally when my son had his measles vaccine at 13+ months I was very nervous and rightly so, he was the most ill he has been so far then than in the following 9 years.

I have read Dr Natasha Campbells Gut and Psychology Syndrome (G.A.P.S) and she believes those with compromised gut function etc can be affected by immunisation. She has had good success improving the lives of many with autism and other mental health problems through her gut healing 'diet' (very like our LSD/NSD)

I agree it would be good if there could be a test to determine those who are likely to be affected by a vaccination.

Unfortunately it would never be known just how many may be affected if only slightly 'by multiple' immunisation because once done there is no going back.

Thanks Sue, good information

In the article that I posted up at the top of this thread it linked vaccinations to autoimmune diseases through their action on the Th2 branch of the immune system. That's the branch of the immune system that is in charge of allergic reactions. It just hit me that maybe there is a link then also to vaccinations and allergies. I googled it, and of course lots of others made the connection way before I did. Here's the first site that I'm looking at in case anyone else likes to engage in looking into these types of subjects.

http://vactruth.com/2011/05/28/rise-in-childhood-food-allergies-being-linked-to-vaccinations/

PS: Vitamin A is very good for the Th2 branch of the immune system.

I have been concerned about how kids are given so many shots, so young, with so little time in between. When my kids got their shots, they were over a month before they got their first shot. My grandkids got their first in the hospital. Little Summer was a 7 week preemy and she was given shots when she was only 2 weeks old. How could her immune system be ready at that age?

Answer - is not, Donna. Makes one so very, very concerned. Hope yr grandchild suffered no ill after affects.