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#468880 - 05/05/12 04:57 AM What does your diet look like?
seb Offline
Warrior_AS_Kicker

Registered: 02/17/10
Posts: 465
Loc: New Zealand
Just wondering if everyone can contribute to help build a list of all the no starch/low starch foods, ingredients and meals that you currently eat on your specific diet?

I'm curious to see other people's diets and what works for other people.

Any contributions would be fantastic!

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#468897 - 05/05/12 11:37 AM Re: What does your diet look like? [Re: seb]
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Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 5160
Loc: So Cal (high chaparral)

Hi, seb:

Although I am no longer a true NSDer, and I got away with eating many fringe foods because I was on antibiotics, I had a few favorite foods that seemed to help.

Although no longer a vegetarian, I have maintained that the NSD does not need to rely so heavily upon red meat; it was fortunate that tofu is normally safe. And I have had many meals where the central theme is not a meat but a vegetable, instead.

Salmon, especially baked. I flavor with lemon juice, butter, salt and pepper. Sometimes a sprig of rosemary.
Firmest tofu baked. A1 sauce is good with this.
Okra with onions and hot sauce.
Bitter melon with scrambled eggs and plenty of hot sauce.
Chicken or turkey hot dogs with mustard of course.
Steamed eggs in a sort of bowl shaped mound and much added like beansprouts, chives, bell peppers, and sometimes cubes of tofu.
Salads--orange/almond salad with tarragon vinaigrette. Cesar salad and chef's salad without the pork and more Swiss than mozzarella cheese (slightly aged versus fresh cheeses are potentially less reactive). Salads with plenty of olives especially Kalamata olives and Greek salads with feta are especially good.
Beansprouts with shredded spicy chicken.
Bell peppers, onions, tomatoes, and celery cooked together until practically a 'mash' as a base for fresh sprouted salad and one served hot the other served cold is a nice contrast. Radish sprouts I am especially fond of but there are many others that make up a great enzyme-rich salad (celery, lettuce, chard, onion--all kinds of seeds).

My snack was usually almonds and raisins, but adding chocolate morsels brightened this up. Green olives with pimentos along with pepitas is a nice contrast, also.

Quick meals are even had at McDonald's where the patty is pure and they use unadulterated ice cream, also. Now more places are offering salads. I went to Subway sometimes for a tuna salad (hold the bread).

Just a couple of ideas for now.

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#468938 - 05/06/12 01:49 PM Re: What does your diet look like? [Re: seb]
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Registered: 02/16/10
Posts: 1046
Loc: CA, USA
I don't trust any restaurant foods nowadays, since even the meats can be adulterated with modified food starches. But then again the US seems to be bleeding-edge in the area of food as chemistry experiment, so your luck may be better.

My favorite side dish is celery sticks with lactose-free sour cream and real bacon. The bacon is from a health-food store so the ingredient list is real simple, pork + celery juice + salt. I'm sure it's not the most healthful thing due to being fried, but on the other hand it doesn't bring on a big flare like most of my other favorite foods.

Homemade turkey or chicken soup makes a good main dish. Also have plenty of salads w/oil and vinegar, sometimes with additive-free deli meat and sometime with ground meat, sometimes with lactose-free sour cream, bacon, and or walnuts. Sour cream mixed into melted butter also makes a nice meat sauce.

Raisins and walnuts are a typical snack, but I stay away from the chocolate chips because I think chocolate makes me worse.

For breakfast I've replaced normal cereal or oatmeal with hot flaxseed porridge. It's an unusual goopy texture but nice with raisins, sweetener, and flavoring (orange, vanilla, etc) if you can get over that.

I can eat a limited amount of almond flour per day, usually in the form of homemade almond cookies since I have someone kindly baking them for me. On holidays I might eat almond flour as pie crust or bread (which may in turn be cooked into stuffing).

Other than plain water, sometimes I drink flavored sparkling water sweetened up with some white grape juice.

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#468941 - 05/06/12 03:05 PM Re: What does your diet look like? [Re: seb]
Alinus Offline
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Registered: 01/09/10
Posts: 801
Loc: Romania, Suceava
lots of salads
cucumbers
carrots
celery root
beet root
green onions
green garlic
apples
green grapes
strawberries
blackberries
almonds - small qtty.
almond flour - once per week in homemade cakes
eggs
pork
turkey
chicken
goat cheese
hard cheese
thyme
pepper
salt
natural sparkling water
dry red wine
lager beer (once or twice a week)
pickles - with salt and natural ingredients only (homemade).

when getting out, mostly grilled meat with no other ingredients and grilled vegetables. sometimes some salads if the ingredients are ok.
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#468959 - 05/06/12 11:15 PM Re: What does your diet look like? [Re: seb]
marb Offline
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Registered: 02/08/12
Posts: 39
I eat:

- as much water as possible
- vast quantities of eggs
- all leafy greens and non-starchy vegetables, including carrots
- whole tomatoes
- all kinds of unprocessed meat
- all kinds of seafood
- carefully selected processed meat, without starch fillers (eg: bacon, ham, sausages)
- almonds, walnuts, brazil nuts, hazel nuts, coconut, pecans,
- all fruit except bananas, especially apples. never had any problem with starch in any fruit besides bananas
- dried fruit (esp. raisins, cranberries, dates, apricots)
- beer, wine, liquor, soda (obviously not a key part of the diet, but none of these thing flare my AS)
- almond flour, coconut flour, ground flax seed
- dark chocolate, or chocolate without fillers
- real mayonnaise, any high quality condiments without fillers
- any dry spices; ginger, garlic, pepper
- honey, maple syrup
- any oil, vinegar
- very pure and high quality soy protein powder (I ordered this online, it is almost 100% pure soy protein isolate with no sweeteners or fillers and does not test for starch. It is not that normal crap from GNC)

Absolutely zero:

- processed mystery food
- potatoes, yams
- corn, peas, beans
- legumes (peanuts, cashews)
- starch fillers: cornstarch, wheat, potato starch
- grains: wheat, rice, oats, quinoa
- dairy (unsure as to how important this exclusion is)
- MSG
- soy products, except protein isolate (see above)
- processed tomato products (ie ketchup, sauces)

Beer does not flare me at this point, which tells me that avoiding gluten is not part of the equation.

At this point my diet is almost exactly the paleo diet, minus the few paleo items that are starchy, and plus a few processed things that are not starchy. Plus beer. I'm highly skeptical of the kleb theory but long chain complex carbohydrates really seem to be the key thing for me to exclude.

Through this diet I can manage my AS to very low levels of pain without any medication whatsoever, and I have been doing this since January of this year. I was diagnosed with AS, HLA+ last year. Falling off the diet for a meal usually results in a flare that builds over about 48 hours and takes about 3-5 days to wear off, provided I get back back on it.


Edited by marb (05/06/12 11:35 PM)

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