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#457306 - 11/30/11 09:06 PM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
Robert44 Offline
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Registered: 11/27/11
Posts: 15
So, can I ask are you feeling better? Congrats by the way. I hope it works for you. Sounds like it has in the past. I will not give up, thanks. I am trying again starting tommorow. I hope you are well. The thing is, the diet doesnt work for some, so I have to be realistic. And, if for some reason it doesn't work for you hold on, there are ohter options available. Worst case senario is waiting for yet another drug to come on market for the condition. None of us want to be in that position, but hte point is, like you say, don't give up. This disease may negatively effect my life, but by the time it's over no one will be able to say I didn't give it my all. You people are heros to me for sharing your thoughts on this. It's the highest calling of a human being. It really is. To reach out and help. That is what we are here for, not money, not drugs, not sex, not cars, none of it, we are here to help each other. Peace.

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#457320 - 12/01/11 01:10 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
chicharito Offline
Apprentice_AS_Kicker

Registered: 11/02/11
Posts: 95
Loc: Mexico
Can you share how do you feel Alida?

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#457334 - 12/01/11 06:39 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
Alida1 Offline
First_Degree_AS_Kicker

Registered: 09/07/11
Posts: 160
I would love to tell you my pain is gone....it is not and I didn't expect it to be at this point. I do expect to do the NSD for at least 6 weeks before seeing a ratical change...my body has some healing to do..no doubt about it.

I actually slept better then I have for some time. I did have moments (1/2 hr -2) that I did not have pain and other times that seemed as bad if not worse. It seems like that was after the olive oil.

Emotioanlly...I'm scared....that it won't help, that it is going to be very bad in the long haul, since drugs and I just don't mix. Nothing has touched the pain for me in more then 3.5 yrs except 2 injections in my ischial bursitis and those just made it bearable for a bit.

This Thing has run my life for all these years...no more...I am going to do everything I can to manage it, just as I would an unruly child.



Edited by Alida1 (12/01/11 09:36 AM)
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#457337 - 12/01/11 08:24 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
Alinus Offline
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Registered: 01/09/10
Posts: 795
Loc: Romania, Suceava
@Alida1

i also did the 3 days apple fast, with no visible benefits.
but i am finding the NSD effective in controlling both my SA and my gut problems. effective does not mean "cured", it means i can have an almost normal life.
i hope with will be the same for you, or even better.
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#457341 - 12/01/11 08:56 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Dusty1]
Dotyisle Offline


Registered: 03/07/02
Posts: 8293
Loc: Rosario, Argentina
Hello Dusty,

You can eat as many as you like... I generally averaged about 8 apples a day. On the last day there is also the extra virgin olive oil if you follow the actual protocal (to start in the afternoon). That is easily the worst...

Some of the theory I believe is...
- pectin in apples helps to clean out the GI system
- olive oil helps to do some repair and also cleanse liver

I could be wrong on 2nd point of olive oil.

Olive oil is definitly difficult to do... I always needed a swig of water or apple juice afterwards.

Tim
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#457342 - 12/01/11 08:59 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
jbirdus Offline
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Registered: 04/30/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Kentucky, USA
I did a 3 day apple fast as well. It did nothing for me. In fact, it made me feel worse. I didn't test my apples for starch so that could've been the problem. I also did a 3-day grape fast which didn't help at all either. Both times I finished up the fast by drinking the olive oil, what a terrible experience, gag. Recently I did a 3 day fresh vegetable juice fast after watching the "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" documentary, which actually made me feel quite a bit better.

Fresh Juicer Fast - Very Good
Grape Fast - Bad
Apple Fast - Terrible, never again.
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#457464 - 12/03/11 08:52 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
Dusty1 Offline
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Registered: 11/29/11
Posts: 38
Loc: West Austalia
Went 48 hrs tho I did consume 2 x 500ml iced coffees (damn things are addictive)
Cooked dinner for family 49 hrs in and went that's enough and had. Nsd dinner.
Feel quite good at 48 hrs.. Used aloe juice concentrate in my water as well as its purported to aid in cleaning and freshening up the gut.
Started pro biotics tonight..
Here's hoping I might actually sleep tonight ... Been a rough 4 weeks

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#457465 - 12/03/11 08:55 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Alida1]
Dusty1 Offline
Member

Registered: 11/29/11
Posts: 38
Loc: West Austalia
Could I do 72 hrs? Maybe but was over apples more than craving anything...".apart from iced coffee drinks.
Have noticed a general lightening of my moods and movements though..
Pain in shoulder is all I'm feeling so generally better I think

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#457478 - 12/03/11 10:52 AM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: Dusty1]
DragonSlayer Offline
AS Czar

Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 5134
Loc: So Cal (high chaparral)
Hi, Dusty1:

For many years after discovering the Cayce material, I could never go three days on apples--apples MAKE ME HUNGRY! Fasting was easier.

I never knew there was any connection between AS and digestive system until the NSAIDs did their number on me and my AS was so accelerated that damage happened almost overnight--well, four years...

Once the benefits were at least more possible, I finished the full 3 days with extra olive oil to finish and had great remission that lasted many months, thanks in near total to NSD and occasional antibiotics then, but later stricter NSD (no dairy) sustained me with no symptoms for a very extended period. I used to do this at least twice a year, but have not done it now for several years as I am doing so well even on no antibiotics.

It takes a lot of discipline, but so worthwhile in the long and short run! Don't feel bad for stopping--it is a free choice You made--and You got that far, so now know what to expect except for the extended benefits and if You decide to repeat it will be easier.

Hang in there--
HEALTH,
John
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#457490 - 12/03/11 02:45 PM Re: 3 day apple fast started [Re: DragonSlayer]
FlexibleMind Offline
Journeyman_AS_Kicker

Registered: 06/22/09
Posts: 115
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: DragonSlayer
Hi, Dusty1:

For many years after discovering the Cayce material, I could never go three days on apples--apples MAKE ME HUNGRY! Fasting was easier.

I never knew there was any connection between AS and digestive system until the NSAIDs did their number on me and my AS was so accelerated that damage happened almost overnight--well, four years...

Once the benefits were at least more possible, I finished the full 3 days with extra olive oil to finish and had great remission that lasted many months, thanks in near total to NSD and occasional antibiotics then, but later stricter NSD (no dairy) sustained me with no symptoms for a very extended period. I used to do this at least twice a year, but have not done it now for several years as I am doing so well even on no antibiotics.

It takes a lot of discipline, but so worthwhile in the long and short run! Don't feel bad for stopping--it is a free choice You made--and You got that far, so now know what to expect except for the extended benefits and if You decide to repeat it will be easier.

Hang in there--
HEALTH,
John



John, I had some questions about antibiotics. Is there a way to get a hold of you?

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