How I cured my AS

Posted by: AndyJ

How I cured my AS - 06/04/15 11:58 PM

Acknowledgement
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I would like to first acknowledge the Holy Spirit in leading me to finding a cure to the AS condition I suffered for approx 19 yrs. I asked for healing and He showed me how to heal myself and stay that way.

Cure
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I realise many people in the health industry hate the "cure" word, so my apologies in advance to those whom I offend. I am just using it based on the old fashioned dictionary definition: "An substance or treatment that relieves someone of the symptoms of a disease or condition".

Who am I?
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I am a 40 yr old male from Australia. I started suffering AS at the age of 18. The pain first affected my hips and later moved into my spine. My father had AS and for as long as I remember and had a hunched fused back. He tells of stories of the immense pain he suffered as a young adult. At the age of 35 my pain became so excruciating I could hardly sleep anymore. It was at that time I came to a point where I resolved in myself that I would either cure the condition or die. So I researched for hundreds, perhaps thousands of hours. I started putting into practice the things I learned and by the age of 37 I was completely symptom & pain free. Since then, I play soccer regularly (currently 2-3 times/week), play beach volleyball, go to the gym and enjoy the beach/outdoors. Stuff I could not do for many years. I hope some of what I learned may help others.

What is the cause of AS?
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In the majority of AS cases the problem is really Leaky Gut. A particular bacteria called Klebsiella is able to escape from the gut to the circulatory (blood) system. Once in the blood stream, an autoimmune response causes your body to create antibodies to kill this bacteria. Unfortunately AS sufferers have a tissue type (identified by the gene HLA-B27) that has a similar structure to the bacteria. So the antibodies that kill the bacteria also attack our own tissue causing inflammation and pain.

What is the solution?
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With this knowledge, health professionals have come up with a number of different solutions:
1. Eat less starches - As klebsiella feeds & multiplies on starches, by reducing them in your diet, less will enter into the blood, hence, there will be less inflammation/pain.
2. Antibiotics (and similar) - Attempt to kill the klebsiella in the gut. Unfortunately, most of these treatments also kill much of the good bacteria in the gut, are very toxic and make Leaky Gut even worse.
3. Immune suppression - there are drugs available for AS sufferers that attempt to suppress the immune system so that our bodies create less antibodies, hence, we get less pain. This leaves you with a compromised immune system and therefore much more vulnerable to other sicknesses/diseases.
4. Heal the gut - this is the approach I took. I figured if I could heal the gut, Klebsiella can't enter into the circulatory system, hence, there will be no autoimmune response, therefore no pain.

Of all of these solutions I looked into, #4 seemed like the only cure to me, the others just treated symptoms.

How do you heal the gut?
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Most of my research I did in healing my condition was focused on healing the gut specifically. It is a massive topic. I learned a healthy diet was the key to healing Leaky Gut, but myself back then and most people are clueless to what really is healthy. The health industry is just as corrupt as the drug industry. If I explained what to do and why it would easily fill a book. So in the interest of keeping this article shorter, I will mostly explain what to do and only briefly explain "why" in a few areas.

- Drink lots of pure water (free of chlorine/fluoride)
- Replace table salt (sodium chloride) with sea or Himalayan crystal salt (containing 84+ minerals)
- Replace white sugar (with no vitamins/minerals) with raw sugar
- Eat/Drink lots of probiotics - to heal the gut and establish a healthy gut flora with at least 80% good bacteria, you must consume lots of living foods. For example: raw milk from grass fed animals, raw sauerkraut & other lacto fermented vegetables, milk/water kefir, yogurt from grass fed animals, kombucha, etc.
Note: When people have Leaky Gut, they will eventually build up allergies to many foods because no food good or bad should enter into the blood. So just consume the healthy foods you can that doesn't cause issues, once you heal your gut, you will be able to eat anything you like.
- Consume lots of bone broths of grass fed animals - this is one of the best things you can do to heal your gut
- Slow cooked meals are far healthier than fried
- Take prebiotics - ie. Raw honey, Chlorella
- Add food grade hydrogen peroxide to water between meals - it will help kill bad bacteria, oxygenate the blood and help good bacteria grow. Far safer than antibiotics.
- Eat lots of healthy fats - butter from grass fed animals, coconut oil, virgin cold pressed olive oil/macadamia oil/hemp oil/flaxseed oil avoid vegetable oils (#1 cause of heart disease)
- Replace grain fed meat with hormone free grass fed meat
Note: I've mentioned grass fed dairy/meat a few times. The reason is that grass fed has a very healthy Omega 3/6 ratio, grain fed has a very unhealthy ratio which cause inflammation in the body; the last thing you need when trying to heal your gut.
- Avoid antibiotics, it is like unleashing a nuclear weapon in your gut. It is impossible to build a strong immune system and health gut flora if you take antibiotics.
- Avoid drugs (including vaccinations) - many contain viruses, toxins, aborted baby DNA, mercury or aluminum (that eats holes in tissue). In many causes these could have been the cause of Leaky Gut in the first place.
- If you have amalgam fillings, they release lots of mercury on a daily basis. Mercury eats through tissue. Find an holistic dentist and consider having the amalgam fillings replaced with composite fillings.
# Ask yourself the question, did your symptoms start shortly after having a vaccination or a dental procedure involving amalgam fillings?
- Take products to help chelate (extract) toxins/heavy metals: diatomaceous earth, bentontie clay, zeolites, chlorella, coriander & borax.
- Consider doing water fasts as this is the quickest way to detox & heal. In the period where I was healing my condition, I did 3 water fasts between 17 & 19 days. An added bonus was that I lost 10kg (22 pounds of fat) by doing that also. I have now less than 10% body fat.

Final Note
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I started drinking lots of water around 9 yrs ago after finding the website (watercure.com). In that time I've had 3 mild colds and have not taken drugs once. Before that I got sick 2-3 times/year. Pure water is the top of my list of health practices. In terms of AS, water helps maintain healthy cartilage between your vertebrae, it will reduce calcification, inflammation and pain.

An added note: most cancers are caused by vaccinations. There are animal viruses or aborted baby DNA in vaccinations as they are cultured in either animal body parts or aborted babies. The baby DNA causes an autoimmune response in the body. The animal viruses infect cells and make them cancerous. If you are fully hydrated, the other cells in your body communicate efficiently and will work together passing minerals & producing hydrogen peroxide to destroy the cancer cells. If you are not fully hydrated, your cells are more concerned with staying alive, not helping other cells, hence, the cancer cells spread. It is nearly impossible to kill viruses in the blood, so the best you can do it maintain your cell health by drinking lots of water. I do believe extended water fasts is the only way to potentially kill viruses in the blood, but that is based purely on my understanding of the body, not on scientific evidence. I do not know of a study ever done in relation to this.

I do many things these days to maintain a healthy diet/lifestyle. I mostly eat organic, activate nuts before eating & eat sourdough bread/wheat products. Previously if I ate something like a pizza (containing lots of starches), I would be suffering in a lot of pain about 6 hrs later, now days I can eat what I like without pain.

Raw milk from grass fed animals is what I call the healthiest food on the planet, but I also realise western governments have a war against health, so many health products are not permitted by law. Western governments are lobbied by the drug cartel (Big Pharma), and it is in their best interest to keep you sick and dependent on their drugs.

I consider myself a free man with a free will to chose for myself, not bound by laws of a Government that are supposed to represent me, but in truth are only pursuing their own hunger for money & power.

I know a number of things I have said are controversial. Free thinkers will do their own digging and I believe will draw similar conclusions. Those indoctrinated in the system will probably oppose many things I've said. The purpose of writing this is to help those in genuine need and I have no interest in arguing with the doubters. I wish I found a post like this when I was in agony, but I didn't, it would have saved me years of pain. I hope if nothing else this post will point you in a direction you may not have considered when doing your own research.

God Bless,
Andy
Posted by: davidchen

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/08/15 11:12 PM

it is similar with the "Perfect Health Diet"
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/10/15 11:33 AM

Still, as of now there is no cure and that is a medical fact. There is no way to unfuse joints and make them supple again. I believe an individual, targeted genetic approach could be a way forward but science is not there yet.
I am glad you are feeling better and hope you continue good health.
Posted by: miniowl

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/10/15 11:07 PM

Thank you so much for sharing. I was diagnosed in March and have been researching like crazy and have come to the same conclusion that I must treat leaky gut if I ever want to get rid of the symptoms. I've had some tests done and have a citrobacter overgrowth in my gut that I'm trying to starve out with caprylic acid and silver and I've cut all starch and sugar. I've read the GAPS book about leaky gut but I'm curious if you have any recommendations for further reading. Your success gives me lots of hope!
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/11/15 01:34 AM

Hi Miniowl,

From my research, most people on a western diet have on average 80% bad and 20% good bacteria in their gut. A friend of mine who gets sick often got tested and had 90% bad bacteria. Most westerners have very little living foods, everything is cooked/pasteurized. A key to healing your gut & developing a strong immune system is to get this ratio to approx 80% good bacteria. To do this you can take a few approaches. If you just consume lots of living foods as mentioned above, the ratios will slowly turn. To speed up the process, you can try kill lots of the bad bacteria quickly, then focus on rebuilding good bacteria. Ways to kill the bad bacteria quickly are:
- Hydrogen Peroxide (h2o2) - probably my recommended method
- MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) - works, but not a natural solution
- Silver - colloidal or ionic silver effectively kill bacteria, but probably will exhaust itself before it reaches your small intestine
- There are some herb extracts such as oil of oregano or olive leaf extract, but these may be too potent and even kill good bacteria
- Fasting is also pretty effective at reducing bad bacteria & healing tissue, but for those with leaky gut, you will most likely get retoxification (won't explain in detail here). So if fasting with leaky gut, you must take things to chelate toxins in your gut as you go (ie. Diatomaceous Earth, Bentonite Clay, Zeolites).

I won't advise you to take food grade h2o2 as this may cause issues with the drug industry & representatives. Many years ago, h2o2 was a common medicine for many sicknesses/diseases, but the drug industry lobbied hard to get it removed from use & replaced it with their drugs.

In my experience, before I discovered h2o2, I discovered MMS. So I took it, got every sick for a couple nights, but then my pain following that went down to about 60% (which was still a lot). I would not recommend MMS to anyone else though, once I discovered h2o2, I also tried that with similar results without getting so sick.

Like I said above, I determined in myself that I would heal the condition because I could no longer live with it. So I was prepared to try any treatment I would determine would lead to a cure. Not everything I tried would I recommend.

After an initial treatment (maybe 2 weeks) reducing bad bacteria, I would simply focus on a healthy diet to heal the gut & increase good bacteria. I think you are wasting your time if you think you can kill all of a certain type of bacteria, all you can do it reduce it. Once you build lots of good bacteria, it will keep the bad bacteria in check. A small percentage of bad bacteria is not a problem if you don't have leaky gut.

In my experience, I consumed lots of living foods for about a year and although it reduced my pain, I still had pain. The key turning point was when I changed from frying to slow cooking meat (grass fed of course) with bones and having bone broths. Within 4 weeks of adding that change to my routine, the pain totally disappeared. There are many testimonials on the web of bone broths healing leaky gut, it is possibly the best treatment known.

I have written booklets on both Health and Fasting, but I only really give it to people who are very interested. Not sure of the policy on kickas with providing contact details, but I would be happy to send it out to anyone who would like it.

Finally, in relation to the GAPS diet, to be honest, I haven't really looked into it. There are fancy names for all types of health fads/diets and I am sure some of them are probably good. I realised high fiber and raw diets (both popular health fads) probably do more harm than good. What I found however was that diet was far better hundreds/thousands of years ago than now. So I more focused on ancient ways of food preparation. There is a fairly good book called "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon that can point you in that direction. It has both info and lots of recipes. I would argue that wholemeal is not better than grain with husk removed (because of the high phytic acid content), but apart from that, I think the book is excellent.

Cheers,
Andy
Posted by: Staffy

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/11/15 10:55 AM

Despite the 'cure' word your post is great and there are plenty of people who agree with you. Some questions if I may:

What is your position on starch? I can see you have dairy (which is my worst antagonist) which is interesting.
Chlorella - isn't this supposed to be bad for AS as it stimulates the immune system?
Whats your position on alcohol?
How does hydrogen peroxide promote good bacteria?
Would you take capsule probiotics?
Posted by: annelore

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/11/15 03:08 PM

Many thanks AndyJ for your advice.

A question: I was in MMS for 3 weeks but I felt better just a couple of days. What do you mean with "works, but not a natural solution", Y try 12 drops in 6 times per day.

Thank you.
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/11/15 04:33 PM

I did find this about MMS from Science Based Medicine:

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One product in particular was called Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), and its website claimed it cured cancer, Aids, malaria, and basically most things short of actual death.

Curious to know more about it, Rhys decided to Google it, and came across the following US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warning:

"The product, when used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health. The product instructs consumers to mix the 28 percent sodium chlorite solution with an acid such as citrus juice. This mixture produces chlorine dioxide, a potent bleach used for stripping textiles and industrial water treatment. High oral doses of this bleach, such as those recommended in the labeling, can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and symptoms of severe dehydration."


http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/sep/15/miracle-mineral-solutions-mms-bleach

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MMS was originally sold by a man named Jim Humble, who claims that MMS can be used to successfully treat AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind’s worse diseases. He even goes so far as to claim that 5,000,000 people have used MMS and that “hundreds of thousands” of lives have been saved. Unfortunately, it appears that for this function Jim Humble uses more concentrated MMS—a lot more concentrated. More horrifically, Humble bestows his “blessings” on poor people in Third World countries like Haiti, treating them like this:

We gotta give him just enough [industrial bleaching agent] that he don’t get sick but he’s on the edge of getting sick! So we’ve got to keep him just on the very edge and therefore it’s pretty intense for cancer, he needs to take it 4/5 times a day, small amounts instead of a big batch.

In fact, MMS is actually really nasty stuff, with some of its users suffering serious complications.


https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/bleaching-away-what-ails-you/
Posted by: snowshoe

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/11/15 06:24 PM

Never trust a medical product with "Miracle" in its name but this one sounds like a good cleaning product.
Posted by: DavidP

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/11/15 07:54 PM

Hi Andy,

"The key turning point was when I changed from frying to slow cooking meat (grass fed of course) with bones and having bone broths. Within 4 weeks of adding that change to my routine, the pain totally disappeared. There are many testimonials on the web of bone broths healing leaky gut, it is possibly the best treatment known."

I was very interested in this passage.

I have been trying to move away from cooking my meat in a "George Foreman" and have been experimenting with various combinations of bone broths.

For instance, how would you cook lamb chops or a steak - is steaming them preferable to frying - or do you cook all your meats in a slow cooker?

Thanks for posting
Regards David
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/12/15 02:47 AM

Staffy
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- I expected people to take offense at the "cure" word, I understand the medical industry hates that word. No further comment.
- When you have Leaky Gut, all foods, both good and bad can enter the gut. Those with Leaky Gut will eventually develop allergies for many foods. So while healing your gut, you need to avoid the foods that create you inflammation whether healthy or not. Once you heal your gut, eat what you want (preferably more of the healthy food). Dairy is an interesting one as to digest dairy properly, you need the enzyme lactase. Western countries force pasteurization (as they fear bacteria both good and bad), which also kills all enzymes and probiotics. So the most beneficial part of dairy (these enzymes/probiotics) is destroyed before you consume them. On top of that, most dairy is homogenized (which destroys the benefits of the fat) and is grain fed (which has a very unhealthy ratio of Omega 3/6 causing causes inflammation). So although raw dairy from grass fed cows is probably the healthiest food on the planned, the toxic rubbish available in western shops is dangerous and will just cause issues. People who have allergies to dairy can reverse that by consuming small quantities of raw dairy, once the enzymes are established in the gut, they will be good with it. It is a similar story with grains. Fermented sourdough grains are extremely healthy (the gluten is digested in the fermentation process), however, fast baked bread is extremely unhealthy. Before 1960's all wheat (flour) was fermented before baking, then fast food won out and peoples health deteriorated.
- I do not buy into the philosophy that having a weak immune system is good. I never did anything to suppress my immune system, I just built it stronger, but healed my gut at the same time. Maybe it may have caused me more pain (I do not know), but as soon as the gut was healed, all pain was gone and I rarely get sick anymore. Chlorella is a prebiotic, has lots of amino acids and chelates toxins, all essential to building a strong immune system. Chlorella is very good at chelating mercury & aluminum that eats holes in tissue. Chemtrails, vaccinations, many deodorants, amalgam fillings all pump lots of these dangerous heavy metals in the system causing issues, it is essential to detox them if you want to heal.
- Most bad bacteria is anaerobic, it cannot live in oxygen. H2O2 (peroxide) as with ozone (O3) readily gives up an oxygen atom. H2O2 gives up an oxygen atom to oxidise bad bacteria and you are left with H20 (water). Similarly with Ozone, you are left with O2 (oxygen). Good bacteria is mostly aerobic, it flourishes in the presence of oxygen, so if you can increase oxygen in the gut, it helps good bacteria grow.
- I don't take probiotic capsules, but there is nothing wrong with this. I just found them expensive. I like to consume probiotic foods and drinks as mentioned in my original post. Just remember, most good bacteria will get destroyed by stomach acids, so probiotics are more effective on an empty stomach (when you have less acids in your stomach)

Annelore
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MMS is basically an oxidiser used for swimming pools, it is quite potent (smells like chlorine) & can make you sick. It works however as it oxidises a lot of the bad bacteria, yeast & funguses, so less bad stuff will enter into your blood. I do not recommend it though, I'd stick with H2O2 as it is natural. If you have a strong immune system, your own cells will produce H2O2 to fight infections. Mothers milk is high in H2O2 to help the baby establish a strong immune system.

Timo
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Agreed MMS is not a good option. I do not care for what the FDA says however. The FDA has a history of approving harmful drugs and disapproving the most beneficial treatments. Remember, the FDA does not approve raw milk (healthiest food on the plannet), it does not approve medical marijuana for general use (has amazing healing qualities), does not approve H2O2 (a natural product even your body produces naturally), but it approves Vaccinations (the #1 cause of cancer). A 10 year German study found Autism was 10,000% higher in vaccinated children, I directed many people to the website with that study, then about 1.5 yrs ago the website disappeared. I realised then the UN/WHO had a hidden agenda to vaccinate. Just read the UN Agenda 21 on their website, they say 500 million people are sustainable, so what's their plan to reduce 93% of the world population?

DavidP
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Frying is probably the worst for a couple reasons:
1. It produces heterocyclic amine (HCA) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), both are carcinogens.
2. It does not allow the fat & benefits of the bone to saturate the meat properly. Most people think eating fat causes you to get fat, so they even cut it off (# Unfermented grains and processed sugar are the main causes of excess body fat). There are stuff in the bones that have huge healing benefits (I won't go into detail - google it).
- Other problems can be that people eat grain fed meat (unhealthy fats) or they they cook in vegetable oil (one of the leading causes of heart disease).
- Steaming can overcome a couple of those issues, but still it won't allow you to get the full benefits of the fat/bones as does slow cooking.

Hope some of those responses help. I am trying to keep the responses as short as possible while offering the info people ask for. I can go on for much longer on some topics, but you can google for more info. Remember, when you google, dig deep, there is as much crap on the internet as valuable info. Governments are doing all they can to ensure only the info they want you to see if readily available. I recently read about new laws Obama is pushing to regulate all internet info. Think you live in a free country? Think this is not a police state? Do you still have a free will to chose (choose to consume raw milk, choose not to vaccinate, choose not to be mass medicated with fluoride/chlorine/chemtrails)?
Posted by: Marisa_Ellis

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/12/15 08:20 AM

Hi Andy,

As mentioned in your post you dont suggest food grade H202. What H202 do you suggest?
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/12/15 09:54 AM

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Vaccinations (the #1 cause of cancer)


With that there you just lost all credibility and everything you say is now suspect.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/12/15 11:54 AM

Marisa
I can't officially recommend food grade h2o2 as I am not a doctor & the government doesn't want people to know about its health benefits. However, I take it myself.

Timo
Find the YouTube clips by Dr Dent on the history of vaccinations, it is very enlightening. I've been doing my own surveying for quite some time, so far everyone I've met that has/had cancer has been vaccinated or had a blood transfusion and doesn't drink much pure water.
Posted by: snowshoe

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/12/15 08:10 PM

Your diet experimentation may be intriguing for some but you delve into a multitude of conspiracy theories which really aren't necessary to your post. Just some friendly advice as you've stated you don't wish to argue with doubters who are not free thinkers but have been programmed by the "system." Congrats on your AS Cure!
Posted by: dlee

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/12/15 11:58 PM

Hi Andy,

I'm interested to know what you do to purify your water. Clean water is the next thing on my list and I'm looking at devices that filter chlorine, fluoride etc but also have some kind of magnetizing capability.

Regards
Darren
Posted by: miniowl

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/13/15 10:36 AM

Andy, Thanks again for the detailed info. Good point about the silver.
Posted by: miniowl

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/14/15 01:45 PM

PS there's also so much confusing information about whether or not silver leaves the body and whether or not it's safe
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/14/15 10:03 PM

dlee
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I have a reverse osmosis filter to purify my water. They are pretty cheap on ebay. Since reverse osmosis takes pretty much everything out of the water (minerals included), you can make up for that by adding sea salt (containing 84 minerals) to your diet. You can also buy natural spring water. I've also read about a product called Adya that can be added to the water to purify it. It is derived from zeolites and I do take zeolites to help detox.

miniowl - Silver
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There is traditional colloidal silver that was a popular health fad years ago. These are whole particles of silver. The problem with many colloidal silver products is that the particles are too large and don't pass through the system. There are many reports of peoples skin turning grey. Infact, I've read studies showing large particles aren't that effective in killing bad bacteria either. A couple manufacturers make what is called nano silver, these particles are small enough to pass through your system & are much more effective. Then there is ionic silver which is silver ions as opposed to particles. Ionic silver is more effective again at killing bacteria, but it exhausts itself much sooner, so it not optimal for gut conditions (better for skin/throat infections).

The problem with silver is that it kills both good and bad bacteria. It is similar but far more effective than antibiotics as bacteria can't build up resistance against silver and it does not have the side effects. Saying that, the optimal solution is to kill only bad bacteria. That is why I recommend food grade hydrogen peroxide over silver.

As far as silver being toxic, I read a study on that once, and it would take vast quantities of silver to cause any type of toxicity. Take too much of anything and it will kill you.

snowshoe
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There are Conspiracy Theories, these are theories. There are facts, these are theories that have been proven. These days many facts are considered Conspiracy Theories because the drug companies, governments, elites, etc won't admit the truth despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I call these Conspiracy Facts. Recent Conspiracy Facts that became fact:
- NSA spying on US citizens (thanks to Snowden)
- LIBOR rate manipulation
- Gold/Silver market manipulation
I only deal with facts & truth whether they are conspiracies or not. I understand the majority are happy in the matrix (ignorance is bliss), so I don't offer the Red Pill in future unless it is necessary to respond truthfully to questions. The problem is when I started digging, I uncovered a whole world of secrecy & corruption, it is not what I was indoctrinated to believe in school. Unfortunately, many diseases today are directly related to that corruption. So if you want health, you will probably need to take the Red Pill.
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/15/15 09:15 AM

You said:
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I only deal with facts & truth whether they are conspiracies or not.


That's not quite true. When you said:

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A 10 year German study found Autism was 10,000% higher in vaccinated children, I directed many people to the website with that study, then about 1.5 yrs ago the website disappeared.


If this were actually true and factual, there would be hundreds of other studies to back it up. But there aren't any are there?

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There is no link between vaccines and autism.

Some people have had concerns that ASD might be linked to the vaccines children receive, but studies have shown that there is no link between receiving vaccines and developing ASD. In 2011, an Institute of Medicine (IOM) reportExternal Web Site Icon on eight vaccines given to children and adults found that with rare exceptions, these vaccines are very safe.

A 2013 CDC studyExternal Web Site Icon added to the research showing that vaccines do not cause ASD. The study looked at the number of antigens (substances in vaccines that cause the body’s immune system to produce disease-fighting antibodies) from vaccines during the first two years of life. The results showed that the total amount of antigen from vaccines received was the same between children with ASD and those that did not have ASD.

Vaccine ingredients do not cause autism.
One vaccine ingredient that has been studied specifically is thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used to prevent contamination of multidose vials of vaccines. Research shows that thimerosal does not cause ASD. In fact, a 2004 scientific reviewExternal Web Site Icon by the IOM concluded that "the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal–containing vaccines and autism." Since 2003, there have been nine CDC-funded or conducted studies Adobe PDF file [PDF - 316 KB] that have found no link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD, as well as no link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and ASD in children.

Between 1999 and 2001, thimerosal was removed or reduced to trace amounts in all childhood vaccines except for some flu vaccines. This was done as part of a broader national effort to reduce all types of mercury exposure in children before studies were conducted that determined that thimerosal was not harmful. It was done as a precaution. Currently, the only childhood vaccines that contain thimerosal are flu vaccines packaged in multidose vials. Thimerosal-free alternatives are also available for flu vaccine. For more information, see the Timeline for Thimerosal in Vaccines.

Besides thimerosal, some people have had concerns about other vaccine ingredients in relation to ASD as well. However, no links have been found between any vaccine ingredients and ASD.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism/


Also:
Every year, 2.5 million unvaccinated children worldwide die of diseases that vaccines could have prevented, and vaccines prevent the deaths of an additional 2 million children, according to the World Health Organization.

If you are going to say you deal in facts, please back it up with science because calling it a "conspiracy" just doesn't work.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/15/15 10:03 PM

Timo
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If you want the truth, you will have to dig much deeper than relying on information from 2 Zionist run Corporations with an agenda to vaccinate. Thimerosal (organic mercury) has been removed from most vaccinations now. If it wasn't harmful, why was it removed? If it was a "precaution" are they saying there is stuff in vaccinations they simply do not know of the effects on humans at the time they were released?
- Why was thimerosal replaced with Aluminium as a preservative in most vaccinations which is nearly as harmful?
- Why do most cases of autism in children occur within a month of the 1yr old vaccinations? There was a documentary I saw that pro vaccine scientists admitted this, but they claimed no connection. Forgot the name of the program, but Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy were also in it claiming their child was not autistic until he received the 1yr old vaccines.
- Why did African Scientists discover sterilization chemicals in the WHO administered Ebola vaccine that was recently forced on many African people?
- Why did reports from Africa (not on mainstream media) claim that the only people who contracted Ebola were the ones who received the vaccine?
- Why didn't the mainstream media report on the 39 out of 52 children that died or were hospitalized in Mexico recently after receiving vaccinations:
http://www.naturalnews.com/049669_vaccine_injury_depopulation_agenda_deadly_side_effects.html
- Why does the Government pay out cases of harm done to children in the US Vaccine Court & not drug companies?
- Why has there never been a double-blind placebo-controlled study done to prove the safety and effectiveness of vaccines?
- Why is there no scientific evidence that can prove disease reduction in any country was attributed to vaccinations?
- Why has there never been a scientific study to prove that the preservatives and chemical additives used in vaccines are safe for humans?
- Why was the head scientist who developed the Polio vaccine fired and disbarred when she stated that the vaccine couldn't be released to humans as it contained a monkey virus (SV40) what would cause a cancer epidemic in the future? She stated all of your test rats died of cancer.

There is a saying, "You don't know what you don't know". You may believe the Government discloses the whole truth to you about everything, but this is not what I have found. Has anyone wondered why one of the 911 commissioners stated on camera that 911 was a 40 year planned event?

The problem with scientific studies these days are that most of them are made up or manipulated. I read a very long article by the previous head of the New Zealand Dental Association who promoted fluoride around the world. When he discovered he was selling lies, he went through all the scientific studies they they used to promote fluoride and revealed the real results and the results they told the public. His conclusion was that tooth decay is caused by too much fluoride, not enough calcium. I did a quick web search, I can't find his original article, but this appears to be a short version:

http://www.slweb.org/colquhoun.html

I've found the same type of articles in relation to most "scientific studies" including vaccines. The point I am making is there are some things the Government is not truthful to you about because their Agenda is different from yours. Government makes lots of money from Drug companies and there are many lobbyists for the drug companies loading their pockets. Health may not be their primary concern.

The reason I bring up mercury in vaccinations is because I discovered years ago from a very smart Nautropath that mercury eats through human tissue, it is extremely toxic. She stated that mercury is the primary cause of Leaky Gut in many people. She suggested mercury can eat through the brain barrier and enter the brain causing autism (my independent research confirms that). So detoxing mercury from my system was one of the first things I did in relation to healing my gut. I did heavy metal tests while detoxing and saw these toxins decrease. Now if you believe mercury is not harmful as the Government wants you to believe, I am not sure how you can possibly heal your gut and cure AS.

I no longer have pain and I stand by the information I have discovered. Has your Government/Drug industry inspired information done the same for you?
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/16/15 12:03 AM

Good grief.
Quote:
The problem with scientific studies these days are that most of them are made up or manipulated.


This you have to prove with science.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/16/15 01:27 AM

Here is an article just last week exposing many fake Medical scientific papers that were published in respected journals:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-08...peer-review-sca

This one from earlier this month where the editor of in chief of Lancet (Medical Journal) states that up to half of the scientific literature may be untrue:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-01/editors-world%E2%80%99s-most-prestigious-medical-journals-%E2%80%9Cmuch-scientific-literature-perhap

I also gave you the example above of the fluoride misinformation. I see this all the time while researching, I no longer keep track, its just part of the world we live in (corrupt). This is why I suggest to dig deep when researching the truth, especially if it is related to your health.
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/16/15 05:40 PM

This is not world wide corruption. From your own link:

Quote:
A partial list of the retracted articles suggests most of them were written by scholars at universities in China.
Last year, in one of the most publicized scandals, the Journal of Vibration and Control, in the field of acoustics, retracted 60 articles at one time due to what it called a “peer review and citation ring” in which the reviews, mostly from scholars in Taiwan, were submitted by people using fake names.
Posted by: boz

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/21/15 04:17 AM

Good post AndyJ! Very interesting reading.
What % hydrogen peroxide do you recommend for drinking, and how much, and often do i drink it?
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/21/15 04:57 AM

Hi Boz,

These days I normally only take peroxide while fasting (I do about 3-4 fasts per year of at least 7 days). For maintenance, I'd take about 3 drops of 35% per glass of water. When I was using it for treatment, I'd work my way up from 5 drops per glass to around 20 drops, 3 times a day. Don't go to high dosages too quickly as it will kill too much bad stuff (bad bacteria, viruses, fungus's) at once and it may be difficult for your body to detox from it. Also, don't take larger dosages around meal times as it can make the food fizz up a bit causing stomach discomfort.
Posted by: boz

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/22/15 04:24 AM

I don't think i can get a hold of 35% here in Norway, the drugstore only sells 3 and 6%
Would i just take 6x as many drops of the 6% or do it need to be 35%?
Posted by: davidchen

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/24/15 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By snowshoe
Your diet experimentation may be intriguing for some but you delve into a multitude of conspiracy theories which really aren't necessary to your post. Just some friendly advice as you've stated you don't wish to argue with doubters who are not free thinkers but have been programmed by the "system." Congrats on your AS Cure!

perhaps the best way to verify is just try it with the precondition that will not permanent damage our health.We just live with hope. For some patients there maybe few choice.Thanks for Andy's sharing.
grass fed milk and meat is really hard to get in the marketespecially in china. I am not sure the slow cook "grain fed bone broth" will also good?
Posted by: snowshoe

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/24/15 07:23 PM

It's true that most diets are harmless/low risk decisions. Many members here have reported benefitting from the No Starch Diet and I've given that a try. Because of the number of members who've tested the NSD I concluded it was worth a long trial. My point in this thread is once the messenger diverged into a number of conspiracy theories, it diluted the theory/message for ME. But so far it's an experiment of 1 so while not willing to be a pioneer, if more people try this and have success that would get my trust and attention. So I hope you give it a try David and report your results. Best wishes
Posted by: davidchen

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/25/15 09:23 AM

There is another successful experiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvgjJTLrM3M
Posted by: snowshoe

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/25/15 10:05 PM

I'll wait until you try it first yes
I would need to buy a cow for the fresh unpasteurized milk but don't have enough room for a cow.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/26/15 06:59 AM

Boz
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Yes, if you can only get hold of 6% food grade h2o2, multiply the amounts I said by 6.

DavidChen
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The problem with grain fed meat is that is has a ratio of approx 1:24 omega3:omega6 fats. This has been shown to cause inflammation, so it won't help with AS. Grass fed meat has a much healthier ratio approx 1:3. It is a shame mass production is more important than health. In Australia we are fortunate, we can get grass fed meat easily.

snowshoe
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So having a healthy diet is an unproven experiment hey? Classic! All I did with this post was teach people what is healthy because most don't know. Your body has an amazing ability to heal if you look after it. Put rubbish fuel in your car and see if it runs as well as with clean fuel. Your body is no different, it requires clean fuel to function optimally.
Posted by: davidchen

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/29/15 06:51 AM

if it was only the problem of ratio of omega3:omega6 fats, we can take the omega3 supplement capsule to improve the ratio.
Posted by: dlee

Re: How I cured my AS - 06/30/15 06:35 PM

Some say that Omega 3 supplements are unstable and not worth the money spent on them. In fact can be oxidized easily. Food always trumps supplements - if you can get good quality food.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 07/02/15 02:11 AM

That's correct, you get far more benefits from a complete food than with supplements. I don't take any supplements, they are expensive and have little benefits on their own. Much of the meat also was given hormones, then they even colour it in the supermarket to look more appealing. I just buy natural.
Posted by: Sue22

Re: How I cured my AS - 07/02/15 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By dlee
Some say that Omega 3 supplements are unstable and not worth the money spent on them. In fact can be oxidized easily. Food always trumps supplements - if you can get good quality food.


when i added in fish oil....then later krill oil, it does improve my cholesterol levels. i take pravastatin too, but together, the numbers are better.
Posted by: Northwind

Re: How I cured my AS - 10/21/15 06:22 AM

Hello Andy!

Thank you so much for spreading this information of yours!

I would love to get a booklet on fasting. Should I send you my contact information?
Posted by: GrainDane

Re: How I cured my AS - 10/29/15 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By Timo
Still, as of now there is no cure and that is a medical fact. There is no way to unfuse joints and make them supple again.


Be careful where you throw around the word "Fact". Some people are looking for a reason to give up. Just as it is to say there is no "cure", it is not a fact to say AS cannot be cured or at least what OP was eluding to - alleviation. It is a THEORY that AS cannot be cured. It is a fact that you won't find something if you aren't looking for it.

From NCSE:
Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as “true.” Truth in science, however, is never final and what is accepted as a fact today may be modified or even discarded tomorrow.

Hypothesis: A tentative statement about the natural world leading to deductions that can be tested. If the deductions are verified, the hypothesis is provisionally corroborated. If the deductions are incorrect, the original hypothesis is proved false and must be abandoned or modified. Hypotheses can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations.

Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
Posted by: Timo

Re: How I cured my AS - 10/29/15 06:21 PM

Please reread that sentence.

"Still, as of now there is no cure and that is a medical fact."

As of now.....
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 11/10/15 08:46 AM

I have been pain free for four years now and enjoy playing soccer 2-3 times a week. I have full mobility also. By the dictionary definition of the word cure, yes I am cured. However, I didn't write this post for my benefit, has there been anyone else desperate enough to follow my advice? I'd love to hear your results. What I said may seem like a strange theory to you, but it's fact to me. Maybe one day science will prove that if you have a healthy diet and lifestyle, you will be healthy, but until then, you will just have to take what I said with a little bit of faith.
Posted by: L33

Re: How I cured my AS - 11/30/15 03:43 PM

Thank you AndyJ for sharing your story and research, some of the things I have researched ring true with what you have said....

stay healthy...

Lee
Posted by: Josephine

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/15/16 10:06 AM


Timo,

With all due respect, thank you so much for your work with this site, I have got to disagree with you:

On vaccinations possibly causing harm... "If this were actually true and factual, there would be hundreds of other studies to back it up. But there aren't any are there?"

Where do you think this published, peer reviewed science is coming from? The pharmaceutical companies. And who do you think is going to fund the millions to disapprove the safety of the pharmaceutical industry's products? ...Hence, no studies.

I used to teach Montessori and I can tell you from what I saw with vaccinations and my student population that I have reason to suspect vaccinations are at least, worth a more critical look. And perhaps they are not all good or all bad, but I have seen children develop behaviors on the spectrum immediately after scheduled vaccinations. But here we have entered into a conversation about paradigm and not just AS.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/21/16 07:33 AM

You are correct Josephine.

Big Pharma and Governments both make lots of money from vaccinations, so the propaganda machine promoting vaccinations will most likely continue in full swing.

Putin: "Western Governments Are Enslaving Humanity Through Vaccines"

As you said, there is no incentive for scientists to do studies on the harmful effects of vaccinations. However, there is one large study being done in Germany. It is a group that is collecting data in response to a survey filled in by parents of children. So far it clearly demonstrates that the most diseased children are the vaccinated ones (by a long way).

This page gives a summary, but also has a link to the actual survey which is ongoing:

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/survey-results-are-unvaccinated-children-healthier/

Also, if you have been following the statistics for the number of claims in the US Vaccine court you would have noticed the successful cases were going exponential up until early 2015 when the Government decided not to publish the data anymore. Another question you have to ask is why is Big Pharma exempt from prosecution in court while the Government (the people) pay out successful injury claims. The corruption is rife!
Posted by: WendyR

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/21/16 08:38 AM

UNICEF is neither big pharma nor government. This is their opinion.

http://www.unicef.org/immunization/index_why.html
Posted by: Josephine

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/27/16 10:15 AM

I think UNICEF does great work!! That said, it's main source of funding is US Federal government and UN (again, US).

As of 2007, around 60% of the funding was from government donors, 30% from private sector (including individual donations). The rest comes from organizations such as other UN agencies, NGOs, other international organizations.

In 2007 the US government contributed around 9% of the total budget.
Source(s):
UNICEF annual report 2007, http://www.unicef.org/publications/index_44268.html
Posted by: Josephine

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/27/16 10:19 AM

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf


Thimerosal = mercury. The amount has in recent years been scaled back but you can see it is still present in recommended vaccine schedule.

Heavy metals and autoimmune are related issues.
Posted by: william_1978

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/28/16 03:48 PM

Hi Andy

I popped you a quick pm a while back to see if it would be possible to get copies of your booklets that you mention earlier in the thread?

If you're hapy enough to send, please let me know and I'll pm my email address.

Many thanks
William
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/05/16 02:18 AM

Sorry to those who sent me a Personal Message, I only just discovered that part. I will respond to everyone.

There is a good documentary that recently came out called Vaxxed:

http://www.vaxxedthemovie.com/

It talks about the massive coverup in relation to autism and vaccinations. Obviously it is no surprise to people who have done their research. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand how mercury & aluminum easily bypass the brain barrier and destroy the neural network causing mental conditions. One documentary I watched years ago stated autism was 20,000% higher in vaccinated children, yet the doctors on the same documentary claimed there was no link. haha
Posted by: nowIknow

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/10/16 09:46 AM

Andy,
Thanks for your post and all the time you spent writing it out. I am also one who follows the leading of the Holy Spirit and so your post interests me greatly.
I have been praying for help for my own health condition as well as the health conditions of others.
I needed this reminder that that is where my greatest help comes from and that is from the Lord, the Great Physician.
Thanks for taking a step out and for sharing!
I have been encouraged and am taking heed.
Posted by: Havsurf

Re: How I cured my AS - 07/14/16 07:09 PM

Hello Andy,
Thank you for all the information on diet for treating AS. I have a question regards to the food grade hydrogen peroxide.
I'm currently taking 1 table spoon of apple cider vinegar with water four time a day along with NSD. This keep my flare ups under control when I accidentally have some starch intake.
Do you think if I start taking food grade hydrogen peroxide it will have adverse reaction to the apple cider vinegar?
My goal is to heal my gut. I only been diagnose having AS about 7 month ago. NSD and apple cider vinegar has helped out a lot so far.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 08/01/16 05:24 AM

Hi Havsurf,

NSD will reduce inflammation which will make it easier to heal your gut. Apple cider vinegar won't do to much in healing your gut, but just make your stomach more acidic as it should be, it improved digestion. I never really took apple cider to heal my gut, you can take acidic probiotic drinks instead (water kefir and/or kombucha), they will have the same affect, but also include lots of good bacteria/enzymes.

Hydrogen Peroxide will help kill a lot of the bad bacteria (including Klebsiella), but also help the good bacteria to grow. I had one guy tell me his AS was so bad he was in bed the whole summer, but after he took peroxide it made a massive difference and shortly after he was running.

For me, the probiotics & peroxide alone helped a lot, but the final cure came when I also introduced slow cooking/bone broths. If you can do that with healthy meat (pasture fed or wild caught seafood), it shouldn't be long before you will heal your gut.
Posted by: miniowl

Re: How I cured my AS - 08/01/16 08:17 PM

Andy,
When you were slow cooking bone broths, did you eat any raw foods like salads or do they irritate the digestive tract? Did you also slow cook vegetables?
Thanks!
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 08/02/16 12:54 AM

Miniowl,

I didn't eat salad's regularly, I mostly threw in vegies in the slow cooker with the meat. I'd eat it with mash (potato/sweet potato) or organic rice and have a bit of homemade raw (unpasteurised) sauerkraut on the side. Cooked vegies do lose some nutrients, but what is left is far more digestible than with a raw salad. Sauerkraut although being raw is fermented and very easily digested (it contains lots of probiotics and enzymes).

The raw diet is just a current fad but people will eventually realise raw is often not best, each food must be prepared a certain way for optimal absorption. I've seen low fat, high fiber & high protein diet fads, that's all rubbish. It just makes some nutritionists lots of money promoting their ideas, but has little health benefits to those who fall for it.

A huge key to healing the gut is having foods that are easy to digest. So food preparation is very important. There is a book called Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon that discusses the importance of food preparation and contains a lot of recipes.
Posted by: Havsurf

Re: How I cured my AS - 08/02/16 11:21 AM

Hello Andy,
Thank you for your response. I will start on the Hydrogen Peroxide today to see how works out. Hopefully it will do me some good.
Posted by: miniowl

Re: How I cured my AS - 08/03/16 08:05 PM

Thanks Andy!
Posted by: drone3

Re: How I cured my AS - 11/29/16 06:32 AM

Andy this post is seriously inspiring, thanks for all the info!

Im in Melbourne and I'm trying to source food grade hydrogen peroxide, there are a few shops online but i have no idea who to trust, where do you get yours from?

thanks
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 12/01/16 06:09 AM

Hi Drone,

Probably ebay is the easiest place to find Food Grade H2O2. Try to find one that says: "no chemical stabalizers".
Posted by: Robin_H

Re: How I cured my AS - 01/25/18 09:21 AM

Originally Posted By AndyJ
... The key turning point was when I changed from frying to slow cooking meat (grass fed of course) with bones and having bone broths.


That struck me because when I first went to NSD I was making vegetable and meat stir-fries and still had gut pain. Then I recalled the idea that "too much fried food isn't good." It also creates LPS by the way. So I pulled out the steamer and began steaming my vegetables; enough for supper and the next day's breakfast. But I still was stir-frying the chicken (and beef once a week) lightly in oil. It made a big difference but i still was having a healing barrier.

I suspected broccoli for some reason. So I took it out and finally went into remission but I was stuck on the NDS.

These days I know that cooked broccoli is classified as a soluble starch and wont make it to the colon but instead get broken down in the small intestine where I think much of AS troubles are.

Another point that stood out is fasting. I don't like it but am starting to get the impression that it is necessary.

The whole original post was full of good ideas. H2O2 is another item I have wanted to add for a while but am having a hard time sourcing it in a pharmacy here... language barrier I think.
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/29/18 06:38 PM

My first post on this forum -- I'd best tread lightly ! I've been roaming this planet since 1954 and only just been diagnosed with ankylosing spondilitis (I've only just learn't to spell it never mind pronounce its moniker) Hindsights easy but its had more that a plutonic relationship with me over many years - Its just I didn't know its name. If pills were water I must have gobbled up a small lake of Ibbrufen over forty years - I guess your all the same . It was the go to answer. I chose to post on this mans thread because he dares to be a hieratic ! He dares to utter the word Cure ! I have read my NHS booklet - cause unknown , condition Chronic ( no cure) , Do you believe that ? I don't - yet but Its less than a week since the diagnosis and I may yet have to buckle down and listen very carefully to you my peers .
I have been reading and digesting information just as fast as I can and altering things radically, diet drugs exercise.
The pain that once had me in absolute terror (I guess you've all been there too) is receding . I have had something of a tiff with my Dr and so I am somewhat alone with this nightmare and to be honest I'm not sure if thats a good or bad thing. I'm forced to listen very carefully to my own body and its pains and react accordingly. So far (touch wood) its working.
I an an electronics and electrical engineer my outlook and approach is diametrically opposed to the automatic dictation of the pharmaceutical industry which in turn manipulation of the legal system direct the MD's an GP's . Thats been highlighted already on this thread - I'd like to amplify it with a few stunning examples . It seems to me in very simplified terms that we are growing bone where bone should not be . (along with other complications of course) Its a living thing multiplying and prospering although we'd rather it wasn't, is neither here nor there. It cares not ! To kill it whilst not killing ourselves is the task . The same might be said of any cancer I guess.
Pop a pill just as I have done over the years ? For things to live breed and grow one of the building bricks is energy. There is my focus and starting line . This pox is evil and painful and the connection of big business to the pharmaceutical industry (because it is an industry and nothing to do with you getting better only with increasing profits and control) needs to be comprehended -- First .. I'm new to this and I'll quickly bow to seasoned campaigners but I'm getting ready to fight and here's what I see -
The very first sentence of this documentary which joins energy unto to the total corruption of the health system - From Farm to pharmaceutical !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnk-f2ThpE
Greedy evil men ! lets then have a closer look at some of the other researchers and systems they destroyed along the way. you're fellow AS sufferers, you know what is is to be frightened to move .
I have read the pain is supposed to be treated as 'exquisite' - yeah right you can have all my share!
So this pain and suffering leads me to a question - who's the most evil man who ever lived? (I'll show you my candidate in a second or two) Hitler perhaps? Starlin? Vlad the impaler ? Pol pot you have to admit there's been some honeys ! My mans done better than all of these put together! and rot his black heart and a corrupt system, because unlike the others his work is moving on a pace - Posthumously
I doubt you have even heard of my man, Millions scream and yelp in pain every day, and the numbers are growing quickly - because of this ' celebrity' A Dr who never practiced medicine and couldn't even pass basic human anatomy. Let me introduce you to the genesis of the AMA and with Rockefeller finance all the MA's world wide - To thunderous applause here's - Morris

Morris Fishbein --- who he? patience The art of story telling isn't quite dead and there's a story which relates to each word Andy has written here - It will take a little time to tell .
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/30/18 01:15 AM

Now and again life produces a genius , someone not just skilled in one field but the stars seem to align to supply amazing talents to one man . Imagine that you could actually see the tiny horror that is actually causing us pain and misery - and then kill it stone dead just as easily as turning off a light.
Imagine you could do that with every cancer and in fact 'all disease' - It was done and then the work destroyed! There is no profit in making people well it seems ! here is one of the hand built microscope's that allowed Dr Royal Raymond Rife to see these things for the first time.



I wonder if any reading me have heard of a wine glass being shattered by a singer ? here's a brat getting very excited doing exactly that .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH7XSX10QkM

Royal developed the stunning concept of doing exactly the same thing with all diseases . Find the exact frequency of each disease and - shatter it ! It worked very well and was eventually tested under the full medical spotlight with The best Dr's in the world in attendance . It was tested in a Hospice (The Ellen Scripps clinic) In the space of two months each patient although on the cusp of death was fully recovered and sent home. - It doesn't take the sharpest pencil in the box to work out who's going to block this technology - does it ? I think for you to understand exactly what Andy is telling us here you need to understand the full implications of a system thats 'turned rotten' how and why its done that.
This video is probably one of the most important I have ever watched and its not on youtube! I invite you to go to this webpage , about half way down you'll find the Royal rife story 'free to watch' 2 hours 12 min of genius . unfortunately you'll also meet bad bad Morris again (and not for the last time)

http://rifevideos.com/

A few blips of light isn't what the Pharmaceutical industry had in mind -- there's no money in that!
Rockefeller and his puppets the MA's and various 'societies' world wide soon put the mockers on it.
where do the ' Societies' fit in ? I'm really sorry to have to admit to you all that even with a bad back I once ran five miles dressed a Micky Mouse in support of the MS society. what a Bloody fool ! hindsights easy I know but the 'society's are simply another Rockefeller smoke screen. Listen now as alternative cancer healer Bill Henderson talks of the shenanigans . and just as an aside, the web site being quoted (educate yourself) by Ken Adachi has detailed information on hydrogen peroxide treatment, Which Andy has already spoken of.

http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b2/BH1.mp3

Uninformed boob's ? Do you start to get the picture ? Rotten to the core. (and there was bad bad Morris again)

Do you begin to wonder what became of Morris ? In the end he was exposed in open court . The AMA was exposed for the total sham its always been . The folks that are 'curing' themselves here it seems to me are using homeopathic methods. Morris Fishbein and the Rockefeller AMA were forced to eat dirt by one of these so called 'quacks'
- He had his day in court and made it tell . He was a very different type of man to poor Royal. Let me introduce you to Harry Hoxsey - If the figures quoted here are true its a terrible indictment of the drugs /big oil industry .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9CvND_UykQ

Yeah Morris got put down - but not really ! the stinking systems still all in place and ruling the roost.
Thats why my candidate is more evil - his work goes on. he has a statue and a hall named after him !
(only in America) The university of Chicago teaches medical history and science from 'The Fishbein center' - Their history might be slightly different from the one I'm writing and showing you here however.
Just how big and evil is big pharmacy ? Its a cunning role as benefactor and philanthropist whilst strangling the population . I read a few pages back an unsupported glowing report of some arm of the united nations . --- like me another uneducated Boob ! It only needs the outfit !The smallest amount of research will tell you everything United nations is John D Rockefeller .
Another few steps backwards - before I gallop forward to mesh solidly with Andy on the subject of water. - Because Hydrogen peroxide is nothing if not oxygen enriched water. rainwater is weak Hydrogen peroxide ,Thats why you can smell it !

I am asking you to absorb information at a terrific pace. films and documentaries that seem not to relate .They do! I am getting better and I know I'm on the right track and the right thread.

Plumb the depth of this evil with me. By all means assume what I show you is conjecture but don't discount it until you have researched the possibility that what I write might be correct.
If even the possibility that what I suggest is feasible then the avenues of evil need slamming shut by each and every one of us.
Cure ? of course there's a cure. Ah but I digress , Evil ! like this affliction its all about 'control' Oil and drugs ! I'm going to reference a few old documentaries now. I've done that intentionally so you might see how this evil has developed and the part you play as a puppet.
The man I'm about to introduce you to is called John Perkins he's a turn coat CIA economic assassin.
I particularly want you to note how the 'big oil' cartels which are also 'big pharmacy' (as you have already seen) manage to manipulate the whole worlds money supply - to Oil. (energy)
This is not about money - these guys can print as much as they want. like this affliction . Its about 'control' I'm afraid its in three part's - Just suck it up .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPoZJNT1eM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oid_95vUZAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCde8IjS-GE

Now a deep breath . How much of this might be true ? how many of these avenues are not closed ?
They should all be reinforced and welded shut but they are not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

energy is key - and its in water for you are water ! even very basic science tells you your body is 70-80% water and thats just at the molecular level.
For some odd reason folks don't want to dwell on this piece of well documented science.
















Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 03/31/18 06:15 AM

How to introduce the impossible ? quickly I guess lest you my new friends get bored. At the sub molecular level it seems our bodies are almost totally water. I have read that very careful measurement of the human form whilst it is dying reveals our soul (however you perceive that) to weigh a a mere 22 grams . now there's a thought to dwell on.
If we are then water can water love? feel? have memories ? might it have energy That would all be ridiculous wouldn't it ? It isn't follow basic logic, It isn't hard like crossing a river step from stone to stone.
Let me introduce you to the Work of Prof Emoto and although a not particularly good Christian I introduce this man with a biblical quote
Job 28 32
'Hast thou entered into the storehouses of the snow, and hast thou seen the treasuries of the hail,'

Here it is as plain as a pikestaff



So simple H20 is far from simple. what you have been taught is, if not wrong far from complete . As John D Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie put a firm grip on everything that may be taught - ever, does that surprise you I wonder?
Let me now introduce you to a friend of mine and fellow Radio Ham sitting in a martyrs car. A car that shouldn't exist and a man who like myself isn't rushing forward to become yet another martyr . - (except perhaps on a quiet back page on this forum.)



Michael has had his dealings with 'the powers that be' so have I - Its not entertainment and I refuse to dwell on it - only to say If folks like Michael ,Stan , Bob ,Rife and the Oh so many others don't have freedom , you won't either ! you'll be condemned to live in the society you deserve and have allowed (and so have I) - Big John D Rockefeller and Devil Bills planned society .

This car has a peculiarity - It runs absolutely and entirely on water. (the stuff we are made of remember) water then has energy contained within its structure. The car was built by Stan Meyer and his twin brother Stephen. It soon came to the attention of 'The powers that be' Stan was publicly executed. (Stephen however now works for the American NSA) It seems to me Stan knew very well there was a strong likelihood his 22 grams was going for a quick stroll . he talks of it here - Its much the same as I have showed you already.



And the energy ? - Just as Rife shattered disease and the brat shattered glass . Stan did much the same to water shattered it - hydrogen is rocket fuel and oxygen a catalyst - without delving into the subject 14 watts of power was all it required to split the water. The gas in turn could drive a 5KW generator. Or a car or anything else for that matter. In a documentary that slipped past the censors and was shown on a newly opened 'Channel 4' here in the UK (and will never be shown again on a TV channel) I offer this clip for your inspection



( here is the whole documentary of your interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98UBY3GhhI but its not essential to see where I'm going right now)

Here's Stan's car on the move way back then !



So like so many others Stan had to go, I suggest any youngsters don't watch the next clip the language is pretty 'robust' It does tell the story of the murder of Stan and it served as a warning to many others who knew the art. - The fat guy holding his chest refers to 'Bob Boyce' The guy who fell down the stairs restrained refers to physician and scientist Andrija Puharich.



Land of the free ?? land of the - free of your mortal coil ,more like.

What pray does this have to do with Arthritis ,water or hydrogen peroxide ? before I go to much further I want you to understand I am delving into 'suppressed technology' There is a huge amount of 'smoke and mirrors' And each of us who has stood rigid scared to move one iota surly know the curse of something evil .
I'm just digging it up so you can study it! - Think on . Water is you and me and most of the planet. Its very important so called . Fracking isn't done in a desperate search for energy its done to contaminate the fresh water cycle - Its a control lever .
Fluoride (for instance) isn't good for you and does nothing for teeth Its another control leaver



As water is you ! and you are water, It takes only subtle mutations to alter each of us out of all recognition. (I quote Ken Adachi here) . suggested by Andy I surmise hydrogen peroxide is such a subtle change.
I also surmise as I have a condition that 'officially' no one knows the cause of . and so it seems no one knows the cure of (do you believe that by the way) Then its important to follow threads of information.
I have already shown energy is inherent in water its also then inherent in the human even if you are unaware of it . This is John Chang, what's the source of his energy do you think? It is a form of electricity thats not taught - research Prof Eric P Dollard and the longtitudinal wave (if you wish to delve)



Do you recall Stan Meyer and the others I quoted who drove machines with water (there are many research yourself) Parts of the system are in international use . Like cures the only proviso 'The powers that be' seem to apply is that the technology is not made available to individuals and stays suppressed.
We are about to touch on a molecular state of water that isn't supposed to exist (officially). The Magnacule. The Magnacule is a temporary state induced in water by fracture at series resonant frequencies . It has something of the same effect as hydrogen peroxide - in that it creates an imbalance in the H2O molecular structure.
Let Me introduce a gentle man I met some nine years ago . a some time Banjo bluegrass player called 'George Wiseman' I met George at a 'free energy conference' (Its a hobby of mine , LOL some watch trains, some collect stamps, some god forbid have train sets)
If your a Banjo player arthritis in your hands would be a serious impediment to your playing and enjoyment . Arthritis can't be cured - Mmmm . George happened to be a very competitive sort of guy . (Not a trait I particularly like as a way of life) It seems to be imbued and trained into most Americans.
At one point I quarreled with George over who should use a soldering iron first laugh2 laugh2 laugh2 , despite the fact I was already using the bloody thing. - It's irrelevant now of course, It was years ago , what is important is he turned that tenacity on arthritis and reversed the effect's . cured - cured - changed - altered - a rose by any other name -- what say you ? Let me explain a little . This is Dr Snow . Dr Snow connected ' bad water' water connected to human waste to Cholera . He did that mathematically . He didn't make a sub atomic or molecular connection. No great scientific revelation, He stopped the death and misery by - stealing the well pump handle. Thats all we need to do isn't it - find the pump (or let nature do it she's got better sight than us ) and take the bloody handle off!



Here's George altering water, knocking his arthritis backwards, and so bringing his picking back up to speed.



I would like to correct George on a few minor points however - Americans seem to have a problem accepting that there is any other part of the world apart from America. They also seem under the illusion that anyone other than an American has invented anything of merit.
Niagara falls is not the place Tesla won the 'war of the currents' - It is the site of the first poly phase transformer based electric grid system used over any appreciable distance. (23 miles) - however

Gaulard and John Gibbs, from France and England respectively, devised a transformer and secondary generator in England that revolutionized AC (alternating current) power. In 1884, three physicists from Austria-Hungary--Otto Blathy, Miksa Déri, Karol Zipernowski, pioneered the transformer designs that are still used today. ZBD, as the trio is known, also created the world’s first power station using AC generators. Thomas Edison, purchased ZBD’s innovations to help create power utilities and electrical grids in cities. Meanwhile, Edison’s rival, American inventor George Westinghouse, purchased the rights to Gaulard’s invention. In 1886, William Stanley created a practical AC transformer based on Gaulard’s invention. Teaming up with Westinghouse, Stanley, at Westinghouse’s behest, relocated to Great Barrington, Massachusetts to create an electrical grid using AC.
Stanley’s innovation of creating power distribution in Great Barrington was a revolutionary development leading to Westinghouse’s preferred AC power being the standard in the United States to supply electricity in cities, winning out over Thomas Edison and his preferred choice of DC (direct current). Of course, everybody wins out in the end, especially when they use ACUPWR transformers for converting line voltages.
The war of the currents was enacted previous and culminated in the contract for lighting the Chicago World's Columbian Exposition 1893 being awarded to George Westinghouse aided and abetted by Nicola Tesla.


-- end of history lesson.

of course like George I'm no Doctor . I'm making no suggestion that you reading me follow my example . There is a certain reasoning to what I intend to do to myself all be it that officially its the reasoning of the insane. - Its my body,its my pain , and above all else I believe each of us 'should ultimately have control of what is done to us and what we do to ourselves.
I intend to make one of these generators and I intend making it part of of my regime changes - I will report. and expand on this in due course. In the mean time -- WATER
I wonder is anyone's reading my musings ?
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/01/18 05:26 AM

moronic class ! As part of my learning curve I have just ordered and read Cherie Allardice and her book on Ankylosing spondylitis
I ordered it through a click bank thing . In due course one of those - how do you like, how did we do things dropped into my email bucket -- question three
"would you recommend ankylosing spondilitis to a friend ?"
woudn't be a friend very much longer I suggest. I can think of a few enemies however! and anyone who wants is certainly welcome to all my share ! 1cup kind regards Duncan
PS - The books very good btw (she's a sweetheart)
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/04/18 06:40 AM

Water water every where but not a drop (fit) to Drink
As I emerge from what I now know as 'a flair up' - and I'm quite sure you my peers know exactly what I'm talking about . I'm very grateful to Andy for this thread . It has allowed me to quickly take some control.
of the pain. From being so frightened of getting out of bed I slept in a chair - I'm not anymore.
I'm not better , I'm not cured , I'm not totally out of pain - I will be , at least thats my ambition . I'm back in control and thats why I owe a huge thank you to this man .Andy - (and his god)
As for being Christian Its what I write on employment forms , very rarely does my body make an appearance in the local Methodist church.
I have been know to pray now and again but on reflection its usually selfish and self centered. I pride myself I know right from wrong, I try to treat folks as I would like to be treated - do unto others
here then is the problem collectively evil is driving the bus we ride.
As I explained I have rejected my doctors advice, and am (as far as possible) beginning to relate to this condition just as you might with a fellow boxer before the fight of your life.
It strikes me that there are some who have actually found a cure (and I mean then in every sense) and its just my snapshot but I'd suggest each of us is different and there is no 'one size fits all' remedy.
That is unless we follow the lead of the great power that is nature itself . she knows what to do , when to do it and in just what quantities. you'd better believe I know how much a cure means to everyone here and I also suggest if we can work together we have the best tools in the world to find that elusive cure - our own bodies.
Its human nature that those on this forum that do find 'a cure' rush to get on with life and put this unhappy condition behind them . accept that its what you would do to ,If there's a cure for one then somewhere there is a cure for everyone . common cause is harder to find in every sense. The mind works very differently to the written word . To convey a series of thoughts perhaps hundreds, that connect, to you by writing is proving almost impossible .
what I ask of you is honest reporting of 'unusual' events that have relived the pain of this condition things that are hard to explain , things you shy away from ! I'll let you into a little secret , I'm extremely
dyslexic every word is spell checked (has to be) Its hard work for me to talk to you, won't you help with some feed back ?
A quantum leap in thought - let nature decide ,' The Magnacule' I'm sure your all aware nuclear waste is a bit of a problem , It might be coincidence but after some 50 years of cohabiting with my associate A.S the very worst attacks I have had (flair ups if you will) have been when I have worked at Sellafield
I suggest a tentative suggestion here to nuclear activity not an attack on Sellafield or any other nuclear site for that matter. just an observation - can anyone support it ?
I also noticed by accident some Ten years ago that putting a contraption called a 'permanent magnetic holder' under my bed really through laziness immediately relieved the situation.
Connected to that peculiar observation is 'The magnecule' connected to all life , water (and everything else for that matter)
One size does not fit all - point a flame at some thing and it heats it . allow me to introduce you to a flame which heats things only to a temperature thats natures preference. A flame that can 'transmute things '
a flame produced from a gas that officially doesn't exist . your all aware of nuclear waste right ? with a half life of hundreds if not thousands of years watch now as the flame heats and adjusts to do exactly what nature requires to a sample . - you can breath this gas ,many do, I suggest it then does much the same thing in the human body.



gets into the blood stream and does the same thing . - what nature considers best!
Some may have noticed a Radon gas connection to a possible cure for this condition or has that escaped your attention ?
Make that connection solid - study the likelihood , or quarrel with me if you like.
As George Wiseman has already informed this is suppressed technology so before applying it lets have a quick overview of its history (by my understanding)
Its far from new so lets take an example from Victorian times and one from the present day - both suppressed in so far as you can't own one although in use by 'the powers that be'
regard this patent issued in 1898 (and buried) its for an adaptation of browns gas. No 603,058

old patent

It took any house hold liquid waste and sewage and turned it into a useful gas . not what 'big oil and the Drugs industry wanted at all !
here it is 120 years later with fresh claims to 'we invented' 'my gas' as you might imagine its still not available to you - The milch cow public .



This is very close to the gas I'm going to ingest so - stick with me please I need to start somewhere.
here is a very crude description of magnegas production



O.K its an off shoot but gets you in the ball park , The idea of two plates in water releasing gas is where we are going. I have tentatively made the atomic Radon connection lets see what a fellow member says on the subject of Radon exposure .

fellow member

now I'm not going to suggest everyone sits in a Radon mine - like all these thing each one of us is different - I'm joining threads !
George Wireman is a fellow energy researcher . different materials ,different currents , different resonant points have different effects. we had common interests . I was re-producing the work of a kiwi called Peter Davey (plates in water)



to cut this short - the object here is to maximize heat (energy) not produce 'browns gas' with the right know how this heating is COP>1 (more energy out than is applied)
however adjust the plates and the current and the equation changes . I'll let George explain himself (1 hour onwards)



so amongst other things to experiment on myself with and report to you is this effect . I think its very important.
HHO therapies (such as hydrogen peroxide) cross reference here - I'm building this machine right now , which will take some time - I will report never fear ! - thank you for reading me - Kindest regards Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/12/18 10:48 AM

whilst waiting for materials for this project - which is still going on BTW . I started another .It seems to take fore ever for gear coming from China! I thought you guys might be interested and so I'll take you along for the ride and see what you make it.
I previously wrote on royal Raymond Rife and won't delve there again , only to say his documented life story is available to watch free here (if you wish)

Rife video's

I in no way endorse, recommend or suggest any of the following . I am not a medical practitioner . and make no suggestion that there is any efficacy in what I am about to do to myself . We are each individuals and the carcass of each of us may respond differently.
This is basically my initial experimentation on Rife and its relationship to my Ankylosing spodylitis'
Like the world of 'free energy' the waters are muddied with much dis - information particularly muddling the frequencies and questioning the character of Rife and the benefits of the original work.
There are vested interests I've already expanded on who wish this technology to remain buried.
checking from various sources one frequency eventually stood out like a sore thumb . 326 Hz . In relationship to other conditions it seems to be the 'go to' frequency where calcification is involved.
An example of this frequency being used to reverse the calcification caused by AS I eventually found (and take the liberty of presenting it here) this -


UPDATE FROM GERMANY : 01-10-2001
An Email List member asked, "I am very interested in spine calcification better known as Ankylosying Spondylitis. "
Jan. 10, 2001: Guess it's time to write this report:
A Therapist in Germany has reported to me privately of two individuals responding well in treatments with the EM+. 328 Hz (and 326 Hz) are the key frequencies, it appears- I'd given him the 328 Hz several months ago.
One lady 32, the other 40, had been totally immobilized- 0% range of motion in their spine, 22 vertebrae fused solid with the calcification.
Working with the EM+ allows direct application of the plasma tube to specific target areas, such as the spine, with the result of much greater amplitude of induced resonance than can be achieved deep within the body, apparently more so than with any 'radiant mode only' method of inducing resonance.
Previous reports from researchers working with Prostate Cancer volunteers in the US report using EKG electrode gell to further enhance the conduction of components of the spiral plasma hand piece's resonant signal more directly into selected target areas, such as tumor sites, etc. Another commonly available option for this use is KY Jelly.
As best I can remember the phone conversation, in about the second treatment session, he could literally hear 'pops' or 'snaps' in the area of the spine being treated, as the excess calcification began to break down. Further sessions have resulted in the excess calcification literally dissolving and 'liquefying', according to his report.
The Medical College nearby has been doing the testing, and reports that both subjects have now regained form 70% to 75% of the normal range of motion in their spines. They also at the same time still claim that this is impossible, that this condition is non-reversible according to their understanding.... yet they are doing the tests and scans and can not argue with the results being achieved.


The origin of this report is this web page

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/emanecdt.htm

on this basis I have thrown some pieces together . you might be wondering why the slight frequency difference. It is very difficult to hold any frequency rock solid and the apparatus for reading the frequencies may also have some slight errors introduced . To remain perfectly in step with an event that is to happen 326 times each second is not particularly easy. 326 hz then you might consider the mean
advanced Rife machines then typically scan through a short range of frequencies in this case - 324 -328
spending a little time on each in order to be certain to hit the right note.
In the electrical /electronics world 326 hz is a pretty low frequency however using what Rife referred himself as cognitive resonance it seems to be the required frequency to 'dissolve' calcification.
DO NOT DO EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING EACH OF US IS DIFFERENT .
Let me explain a little more . our bodies electrical resistance (although that resistance is called Impedance in AC circuits) varies hugely from person to person . It follows that the current that passes through the body with any applied voltage varies hugely from person to person.
Thus I may grab hold of 110 volts (for instance) and hardly feel it . another may grab the same source and it be lethal. So IMHO the trick is to pass enough current to destroy the calcification whilst it is not being uncomfortable or even felt by the individual .
It so happens in my shed I have an old function generator



Good enough for this little task . Function generators are pretty cheap pieces of test equipment available from ebay or elsewhere . you'll find there are various frequencies and claims made with regard to AS and Rife frequencies . For the moment I am concentrating on calcification and reversing it ! and yes you did read that correctly but I promise nothing here yet and the reason I write that will become clear.
The output of a typical function generator is pretty feeble and I suspect not sufficient to destroy calcification quickly enough for my liking.
Its my intension to boost the available power from the FG using a transistor and then use the transistor to drive a car ignition coil . for those with knowledge of electronic car/bike ignition its basically a spark plug circuit made to fire one plug at 326 Hz however instead of being connected to a spark plug its going to be connected to Me! via tens pads . don't worry its not painful
There is another refinement, those who have had a belt from a car ignition system know its painful although I've never known or heard of it being fatal - perhaps someone knows different ? Anyway I need to be able to vary the voltage (hence the current passing thought my body) to a point where I just barely feel it ,if at all. 30 ma is considered a killer dose -- that would certainly take care of my spine calcification (and everything else too!)
this is a thrown together affair made from odds and sods in my garbage - Its about finished in 3 hours
I found an old TV stand and a few bits of plywood and chipboard so I can at least get the bits in one place and movable.
This is then based on the EM machines quoted above . which is also powered by a car ignition coil its all a bit 'old school' now but if it worked then why not now?

EM machines

every thing here's pretty self explanatory an ignition coil I'm sure everyones seen before - the oscilloscopes connected just to give me some idea of whats happening . It is right off the scopes scale and doing what ignition coils are supposed to do . creating a great deal of voltage .
Just to the left of the coil is a transistor I found in the scrap box , I guess it could really be any one of thousands of power transistors . It happens to be a TIP 35 C . Its driven directly from the function generator using the transistor logic output.






connected to the part of the coil that delivers the high voltage you'll see a small LED . It takes but a few milliamp s to light an LED . That LED will then be in series with me and my two sticky pads, probably one on my thigh and one on the opposite arm, I'll at least know for certain the current is flowing up my spine and the circuit is complete. I'll crank the voltage up until it is!. I have tried it hand to hand with two bits of wire . That works as planned although I cant feel anything .



I don't really want to hammer it at this stage . from what I have read there's a detox procedure that should be followed too . I've sent off for a thing called a 'sppoky2' that seems to have all the bells and whistles to do that although I doubt its got the brute force of this thing some 12000 volts is what I measure at the coils output thats quickly dissipated - I feel nothing of that! only the LED tells me the circuit is made.

The first tentative trial tonight . never so much as used one of these pad things before never mind a rife type machine -- cross your fingers for me. please don't get your hopes up to much but you might perhaps wish us all a little bit of luck.
kindest regards Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/13/18 01:51 AM

I'm afraid theres nothing spectacular to report - yet. I connected the contraption with pads on thigh and opposite shoulder.
I ran the machine through the night . The F.G (function generator) held the frequency 362 hz pretty much to one decimal place. now and again when I woke up I set the counter spot on. The LED which was 'feeling' the current worked well. I'm pretty sure this things doing something but quite what, I'm non to sure.
early in the morning I cranked the power supply up to its maximum (30 volts) The current through my spine and body was still feeble. I couldn't feel anything (electrically that is) apart from a slight throbbing now and again which wasn't painful. My instinct is that I am simply not delivering enough energy to the calcification to get the desired result with any rapidity. I'll give that some thought today.
The Internet is something of a two edged sword , on the one hand there's snippets of information on systems that probably worked before they were suppressed or obscured by 'the powers that be'. Previously no one much including me would have heard of any of these systems at all.
The other edge of the sword is lack of information to wit - what clinic in Germany.? what medical school did the tests ? how was the Rife treatment applied ? how long was each session ? and so it goes on and on. Its such important information for AS people and its frustrating that I've got to experiment all over again.
There is a fellow member of this forum with AS (Rick Paris) reporting some success with this frequency on a Rife forum and regaining movement. I hope he joins this thread for a post or two or allows me to quote his progress (I have asked) - back to research - kindest regards everyone and thank you for reading me - Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/14/18 01:02 AM

well it would be great to report that the contraption worked and I spent yesterday dancing . I had to do a short drive every speed bump and pot hole a nightmare! eek The Rife people on their forum tell me thats to be expected (its some sort of reaction apparently) It seems very counter intuitive to me. To do something and it makes you feel worse that is. If and thats a big IF this is working (and I guess if nothing else the change means something is happening) then its not going to be a lightning cure rather a drawn out contest. Still I applied the pads again tonight cross ways this time - about where the waistline should be (if I had one) - I'm just a glutton for punishment I guess . anyway I want to know !
On a much brighter note - even though I'm not sure there isn't a silver lining hidden here.
things have arrived from China . The first being a Rife refinement called a 'spooky2' starter kit . there's quite a bit to digest with that and I'm in no mood right now.
also some sheets of 306 stainless steel . It seems such a shame that its cheaper (far far cheaper) for me an individual to import SS from china than buy a small quantity locally . anyway that puts project one back onto the front burner - Thats my plan for today (when I can move a bit better in half an hour or so I hope) cut SS plates to fit the browns gas project . Its awful etiquette I know - But needs must when the Devil drives . I quote a fellow member here from another forum. As Oliver Cromwell 'wart's an all'


Hi, My name is Rick Paris and I am from England. I have sufferdd from Ankylosing Spondylitis for over 26 years, since I was 16 years old. I have tried every sensible and wacky idea over those years try to rid my body of this awfully painful and cripppling illness. Last May I invested in a rife machine and things seem to have slowly turned round. I still haven't managed to get of my pills but my quality of life has got better. I started rifing with 464 hz for candida as I feel I have a big problem there and I feel this freqs has done something positive. I have also been using 326 hz to break up the calcified bone along my spine. A.S. is an illness that basically joins your bones together and half the bones in my spine were fused together and have been for about 6 years and it gets progressivly worse as the illness takes hold. It will fuse them altogether in the end.

After 3 months rifing I now have 2 cms of movement in my lumber spine whereas this time last year there was none and have not been any for 5-6 years. I have amazed my doctors to the point of disbelief and I am in amazement myself. I have not heard anybody else with my condition achieve this sort of thing without surgery. Has anybody else heard of this? I think there is a member in Croatia who has A.S. I think I read it somewhere.

Is 464 hz the right freqs for candida?

I hope I can be of help to others with my research.


why should I paste and copy Rick ? Its because want your help . I want you to research . dig , be a detective , I need information , who in Germany ? what application ? what frequency ? how long for each treatment. not just Germany who in Croatia ? , there's a tapestry to be made!
who were these people ? ask Rick perhaps if anyone knows the man . what drove him?
busy bees get the honey .
I can move now - Its time to be amongst it ! My kindest regards to all - Duncan

Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/15/18 05:50 AM

Ok there Seems to be a few things happening . I don't dread getting out of bed in the morning anymore. don't get me wrong Its still a slow process with a few stretches. standing and sitting for a while but the bite has gone! I'm sure you know exactly what I mean.
something else thats changed which seemed so minor I didn't mention or notice it before is - I have something like the symptoms of a cold each morning. sometimes a full bloodied sneeze (which used to terrify me) now I just let it rip - and enjoy being able to !
so If I say Bless you ! I mean every one . last night I connected pad to left thigh and right wrist.
I didn't sleep to well because the wires and arrangement didn't really fit my preferred sleeping position (on my left side) . - So lets be honest with you , and there's no point in being anything else, my instinct drives me on a stage, somethings happening but not quick enough for me to wait with baited breath!
you may not believe this right now being a AS sufferer but IMHO we are incredibly lucky!?? - so very lucky that the frequency to break down calcification is tried, tested, and pretty much written in stone.
326 hz ! accepted theres instrument error but still we are not alone in the dark! ! (326 hz plus or minus a smidgen if you like) regardless the hard works been done some person or people have found the specific frequency !
I have been thinking about this ( in fact little else) how to deliver that 326 Hz right to the heart of the matter (calcified bone) . I crave to hear that cracking and popping as this filth gets blown out of the water (just like the German report)
Its just my present thinking you understand but I don't think contact pads are really the way to go! but better than nothing. electric current is going to take the easiest route.
I surmise thats through the fluid,salts and sweat on the skins surface. Like a dog I need to be at the bone !
Thats the ambition then - 326 Hz concentrated right at the bone ! like rice krispies I wanna hear snap crackle and pop!
the delivery options are few . 1/ - pads and current flow 2/ radio waves and light 3/ magnetics
1/The pads and current flow I'm doing now, so I won't dwell its not difficult to understand , cheap and cheerful but not dramatic.
2/ Those who played with CB radio when they had their hey day might follow this example , they broadcast on a frequency of about 27 Mhz. that 27Mhz would go through pretty much anything to some degree walls, glass, hills, buildings and of course - humans . The CB transmitter had a microphone and speech was contained in an envelope inside that 27Mhz . the official jargon is 'modulation' so in crude terms the idea is to use rather than speech pump 326 Hz into the microphone socket the transmitter transmitter and point it at calcification.
I kinda view this like a zipped folder - It gets the whole thing delivered . the important business is locked safe inside. Rife himself used this method and contrived a thing called a phantotron -


me want one! but they are scarce and expensive . Its probably the way to go but I'll have to sell something before I can play here!

The third option ! Magnetics . stop and think for a moment is there anything that the effects of a magnet will not pass through ? through your hand ? skin? metal? wood? bone? The answer is (as far as I know) - nothing known to man . The next question - can magnetics rattle and shake calcium build up inside my body at 326 Hz ? Such reading as I've done so far tells me its worth a shot! basically pure calcium is classified as a metal, A non magnetic metal at that . like copper or aluminum (for instance)
Like me you may then wonder what effect a magnet could have on the bloody stuff. And then I read Its dia-magnetic which I'll try to explain in a moment. As the previous tests (In Germany and elsewhere) record the calcification was destroyed and not natural bone - that distinction must be sub molecular and I don't pretend to understand what it may be , however its recorded that it does so I'll suck it and see!
dia - magnetic ??? who he ?? Kermit on a bad hair day - ( poor O'l frog or perhaps having a great time! who knows?) apart from the frog that is and he's not telling!in this video



So I'm guessing that if I throw a strong enough magnetic force at my spine vibrating at 326 Hz its going to have the desired effect. You'd better believe I want to get this calcification thing by the throat and so thats my next move ! lots of turns - lots of amps - I need to think about that for a little while
kindest regards Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/16/18 04:56 AM

As I think I explained the spooky2 thing arrived! and I've been digesting the information and experimenting a little bit. I haven't used the Rife spooky2 machine through the night yet . but repeated the tens pads to thigh and opposite arm . putting full voltage across the pads again (8000 volts) . . My neck felt a little stiff about 2 O'clock in the morning and so I briefly took the pads off and attached them either side of my neck just above the shoulder blades . for the first time I felt electric shocks ,quite unpleasant and I only tolerated it for 10 mins or so.
I hope Its not wishful thinking or me trying to deceive myself but just at the moment each day seems just a little tiny bit better than the one before!
Let me write a little on Spooky although its early days , This would no doubt be viewed by your Dr and radiologist as heresy and witch craft (I guess everything from Fire to Planes has been at one time or another.) This thing does have a huge following and frequency sets specific to AS in its data base .
I'm running one on myself for the first time as I write.
It seems able to do an awful lot for the money and I think I'll use it to drive the transistor instead of my Function generator tonight.
This guy gives a bit of an overview of spooky


Its not quite the way I want to go .. but this things so very versatile I can use it to detox . and it has a TTL output (like my Function generator) so I can simply drive the transistor and ignition coil with -spooky - If it catches your imagination here's John White explaining a little more of the principles himself



I am specifically targeting 'Calcification' why ?

1/ It causes the pain , It causes the disfigurement, Its the effect that gives me the most trouble. It prevents me working

2/ There is evidence it works ! I have already presented it . It is one of the symptoms the drug cartels assure us can't be reversed . By various means others on this forum who I'm sure you have read have proved that -- wrong so so wrong ! I believe Rife technology is another such avenue.

3/ Calcification is common to a lot of other diseases (disease ??) anyway unlike almost every other condition there is no dispute - regardless of where I look (including spooky's huge data base) there is only one frequency that presents , and I should know I keep setting it again and again through the night 326 Hz . - don't just read me - go research yourself I could easily be in error - but you'd better believe I want these unwanted accessories to my spine by the throat -- by the throat !! and as the Days pass I'm getting more convinced - I'm not in error - my kindest regards Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/17/18 02:02 AM

Not good !I feel I angered the gods! and suffered for it ! Let me expand - I'm sure you have all bought Chinese stuff - Its cheap , Its there , Its an option , Like me you expect it to be basically 'cheap crap'
This was at the back of my mind when I started playing with this 'spooky' I did something in hindsight bloody stupid .
'spooky' Its not called that without good reason. divining rods is 'spooky' twins who know each others thoughts is 'spooky' people who sense and know the death of a loved one is 'spooky' It happens and much much more . Is the maths and science available . I guess the answer is ' only for a war effort'
There is however snippets that can't help but appear . This is an electric universe but there is an electricity present that is very different - ohms law , volts amps and resistance are meaningless - because its different!
The knowledge was crushed , The people using it were crushed, (including Rife) - don't be a silly billy keep it simple - how do you do something with 'light' and then reintroduce the equation of image + light , unless that is - you are using technology ' faster than than light' - Its what got the genius eunuch Tesla disgraced and eventually murdered in 1943. I have no time to dwell on the whole closed book of science that is the longitudinal wave for those with the time I suggest start here - (I warn Its a long journey)

And Dollard is one of very,very few ! on the back of the longitudinal wave comes things 'spooky' sure they happen , but because theres no science we are allowed to be aware of its ridiculed, cast off and ignored.
One of these fields was called 'Radionics' Its a medical procedure, It takes practice and a lot of training , Longer than a Dr for instance .
Radionics
Ok its nothing if not 'spooky' but Its been incorporated by John white into the spooky machine. so here's what happened - For a few hundred £s I wasn't expecting to much - seems I was wrong !
I ran the learning curve in the starter book - which involved a gentle Detox using this remote thing .
I confess I didn't have much faith in the remote thing -- would you? so stupid !! I've made the machines for others to use ! I know it work's '
Now I did a silly thing ! I looked up the frequencies for AS sufferers . I set the computer and machine up in remote , pressed the button and let it go -- all day -- 10 hours !
Last night (night time most unusual) as I was off to bed - a reaction not a nice one !- 'The bite' 'the fear'buckled and frightened - slowly very slowly
I set this spooky contraption back to 'detox' on remote and let it run all night - I also reconnected the ignition coil and high voltage 326 Hz square wave - All seems better again this morning but I'm growing a reluctant respect for this spooky thing and what it might, could be, is doing. !
after all if I stick my hand in a fire and get burnt, who's fault is that? Like I say 'spooky@
- anyway moving on , I have dredged my resources , sold my electric bike which I loved and bought a
Phanotron and its high voltage driver. also a 100 meter drum of 3 core and earth house wiring cable I surmise I can contrive a big directional magnetic field with that ! , Thats another chapter as is browns Gas - seems there's so very much exciting to do and not enough time . Bless you all , and try and have a better day than yesterday - Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/20/18 02:11 AM

Its a few days since I wrote . The household cable drum is yet to be delivered. As is the high voltage spooky2 equipment. Meanwhile I continue injecting 326 Hz at high voltage alone my spine. There seems to be gradual improvement which is why I keep doing it . (obviously)
Each morning I then run metal detox using the spooky2 starter kit.
So I get a bit frustrated waiting for components and equipment to arrive still any improvements however slow is a big bonus and anyway the spooky has quite a learning curve to take on board.
kindest Regards Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/21/18 11:09 PM

Well much of a muchness- High voltage along the spine at 326 Hz . Things are changing but its oh so very slowly (or it seems to be) Still no pain in the morning if I move with a little care.
Still If I told you I've suddenly turned into a gazelle that would be a total lie - There is calcification after all, there is stiffness . Its took years to develop And if I were to expect it leave me overnight - I can think again!
The regime continues. - Azithromycin has also joined the contest Just as an aside - The cold symptoms in the morning are becomming more pronounced . runing nose ,sneezing - The fight goes on - kindest regards Duncan
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 04/24/18 02:32 AM

Good news - The High frequency high voltage carrier wave and Phanotron driver have arrived in the country. along with the Phanotron itself .
Birmingham seems a long way away - but Its a lot closer than China and at least the box has finally arrived on the tracking radar.
for those interested in the theory -- calcification is the thing I'm after hitting. There is an effect called 'cognitive resonance' by some and by others ' sympathetic resonance' Heres a wine glass being shattered by 'sympathetic resonance'

Now understand this - in his time - Royal Raymond Rife identified thousands of frequencies that destroyed pathogens and viruses - just like that.
Watch his life story about half way down this web page if you want , Its probably the most important 2 hours odd of video you'll ever watch I.M.H.O . we - us - all of us,(humanity) by omission let this technology be killed off'
Rife life story
Then we get to a bit of my 'home spinning' Its calcification that's our biggest offender . Its de-calcification I'm after. - To do the impossible , reverse what the medico's say is impossible.
This is for sure - If your convinced its impossible it will be!.
You have just watched a glass shattered by direct frequency interaction . What of calcium in your spinal area ? What frequency ? how to get through the skin to the bone ?
The very hardest thing , The frequency - Its been done tried and tested - 326 Hz . I don't know who did that, Rife I presume.
To deliver it effectively there's the problem . I have been using high voltage pulsing at 326 Hz Its working (I think) but slow and awkward . The current is doing what current does -It is taking the easiest route - The surface .
Just a small portion of the current is effecting the calcium build up. allow me to introduce you to an electrical term - To Heterodyne - To mix frequencies . A deal of work was done in the area by a French punter Jean-Baptiste Joseph Fourier , (When he wasn't busy chopping heads off with madam - la guillotine that is) .


A radio wave will travel easily through most things and certainly the human body . 326 Hz not so easily .
The answer make an envelope of one frequency to carry the other. like sending a letter . given two frequencies F1 and F2 Fourier in his 'transforms' tells us you end up with - F1 , F2 , (F1 + F2 ) and (F1 - F2) Here then is why Rife used a Phanotron and why I'm going to as well . I Beleive its going to let me put the coal on the fire instead of scattering it around the hearth .
kindest Regards Duncan
Posted by: JohnD1791

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/13/18 04:46 PM

Hi Andy

Mind if I picked your brain sometime soon?

I’m in Melbourne and could really do with some advice on where you source your products.

Been struggling allot lately and resisting going down the path of relying on conventional meds. Just been taking Naprosyn just to get through work.

I hope you get this message.

Regards
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/14/18 12:30 AM

Hi John,

Sorry, I haven't logged onto this site in a while, I don't get notified when there is a new post. I probably got to check the settings. What products were you after?

Andy
Posted by: Frederick

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/14/18 04:50 AM

Originally Posted By AndyJ
Hi Duncan,


I have helped people cure their cancer in a month without costing a dime,

Hitler was a hero,

The holocaust never happened.

The Bible is very clear that God heals his children

I have witnessed many people healed instantly from conditions,

Andrew


This must be the biggest load of rubbish ever written on an Internet Forum ever. I have been criticised for being offensive on this Forum in the past but you have offended more people in this one posting than anyone ever offended.

Your comments about "curing cancer" and religion are bad enough but what you say about "Hitler being hero and that the holocaust never happened" are just outrageous. Much too outrageous for me to waste my time arguing with you about such lies that slander a whole nation and those who died at the hands of Hitler.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of writing such drivel and I think the Forum administrators should delete your comments immediately.
Posted by: Frederick

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/14/18 05:09 AM

My posting above is in answer to something an AndyJ from Queensland in Australia made in an earlier post. I wonder if Andy has any regard to all those from Australia who died fighting against Hitler and all he stood for during the last World War. Most of all I wonder what Australian ex servicemen think of his remarks. Andys comments make me so mad that I must refrain from writing any more about this
Posted by: Duncan

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/15/18 02:01 AM

for the moment and I dare say for a little while - I'm struck dumb
Posted by: Frederick

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/15/18 04:56 AM

Originally Posted By Duncan
for the moment and I dare say for a little while - I'm struck dumb


Don't let yourself be stuck dumb just say what you think of AndyJ post. I assume you don't agree with him so let him know that.
Posted by: AndyJ

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/15/18 10:41 PM

"History is written by the victors" - Winston Churchill

Instead of being dumb struck, why don't you do some research? In Australia the Government and Main Stream Media (MSM) spends a lot of money on conditioning the minds of the gullible. They do not tell you that most wars in the last 200 years are over power and control by a group I am happy to call the Establishment for now, they tell you we need to be fighting in other countries to stop terrorists. We are the terrorists. They are not in Australia attacking us.

For years Australian's were sold the lie that our soldiers are assisting Syria and the US in fighting ISIS. Eventually they were exposed and we discovered the CIA actually created ISIS and was training and arming them to lead their Regime Change Agenda as they didn't like Assad. Now there is no talk about ISIS anymore, it's all about how Assad keeps attacking his own people with chemical weapons. I guess you believe that also? smile

Anyway, what I am trying to point out, there are those who do not trust the Government and MSM and do their own research and there are those who believe anything they are told.

Please do not comment any further until you have researched the matters I mentioned extensively as I have. How did I cure myself? Not by believing anything what main stream medicine told me, but by digging and digging. I came across a lot of rubbish which I filtered out. I discovered a lot of corruption and found the medical industry is driven by money and has nothing to do with health.

I remember telling an old flatmate 15yrs ago there is no such thing as Climate Change. He laughed at me and thought I was nuts, but then went away to do some research. Later he came back and apologized and started sharing all his eye opening research he discovered.
Posted by: JohnD1791

Re: How I cured my AS - 05/16/18 03:05 AM

Actually I’m after more of a life plan. Trying to not give into conventional medicine. Would you mind if we make contact via email?

Basically I’m time poor as I a a full time job and gave no choice to continue working as I have a young family and mortgage.

Need the to-the-point facts, products , suppliers etc. so that I can fight AS while working.

Not real good at navigating on this forum and a fluke I found your reply. My email isdivitajohn@hotmail.com.